(2019-01-27, 02:28 AM)malf Wrote: Anything postulated with a hand wave can be equally easily dismissed. The Ethical Skeptic over at Skeptiko adds so much more to the discussion here:
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/in...ost-127246
Unfortunately, Bailey wasn’t up to the battle
Actually, I don't really have a problem with this (from your link):
Quote:Right now it simply comprises a group of ideas along with a general distaste for natural selection.
He's probably right. The fact is that, apart from the few working at the Discovery Institute, little science is being done in the direction of ID so it can't compete as a mature theory (more science is happening with the so-called Third Way, however). My incredulity, as you like to put it, is towards NS+RM. I don't care about proving some god did it, I care that the mechanism we have been spoon-fed for 150 years seems inadequate. The fact that darwinists refuse to allow a place intelligence a priori doesn't help, even if the NS+RM skeptics like myself concede that the designer god insisted upon by the religionists is probably wrong. The debate is just as ideological from the darwinist perspective as it is from the religious one.
My ideas are not science, they are just that: ideas. You have the luxury of plenty of support for darwinsim because that has been the only game in town for 150 years and before that it was some ludicrous Genesis myth. So hand-wave away but maybe pause along the way to ask yourself, what exactly was the sequence of steps required to paint that moth's wing?
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
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