The soul, suffering, healing, learning, and spirituality [Night Shift split]

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(2024-02-20, 07:08 AM)Valmar Wrote: Half of it is my intuition providing the drive, I think. At some points, I'm half-aware of it, just letting it happen. It's hard to describe, because I'm not aware of the source. It's just... stuff coming from somewhere, that rings true. It's all I have. I can only hope that it is true, heh...


I've seen various ideas over the years, along with various idea I myself have considered, that seem to ring true according to my intuition. Some stuff just... seems to click, somehow. When it's a clear intuition at least. And it's not always clear, heh. Nice when it is, though. Not that the clarity ever lasts. It comes and goes as it needs to, I guess.


It is only unfair if you perceive it that way... I see it as being... a combination of fair and unfair to every incarnate entity ~ human or otherwise. Humans aren't the only ones living an incarnate existence. Every incarnate entity has its purpose and place. How their Souls choose their lives aren't particularly different to how our Souls do it ~ it's simply just a different ego-archetype and complimentary physical form. Though, that can be harder to wrap one's head around, understandably. I struggle to myself, but that's because it's the problem of trying to comprehend non-human psychology.

I just ran across what appears to be an amazingly similar explication to yours of the nature of the soul and the reincarnation process, in a book by Dr. Oliver Lazar titled “Beyond Matter.” Prof. Dr Oliver S. Lazar is a medical doctor and a professor of computer science. He apparently had an experience in which the spiritual world revealed itself to him after the tragic accidental death of a girl who seemed to be a stranger to him. It was a profound spiritual/psychic experience. This book won the Scientific and Medical Network Book Prize 2023.

https://www.amazon.com/BEYOND-MATTER-exp...696&sr=8-1

From the Amazon summary: "In this book Dr. Lazar examines current research into the subject of our origins and existence from a scientific, philosophical and spiritual perspective and reports on an emerging paradigm shift in our society. With the world's largest empirical study on afterlife contacts with 500 participants, but also with his criticism of current doctrines on the origin of life and the theory of evolution, he shakes the materialist world view."

Excerpts from the book:

Quote:"...basically, we all have a higher self, a kind of main soul in the spiritual world, which contains all our aspects from previous and future lives.  This main soul always remains in the spiritual world, and when we incarnate only parts of this main soul are extracted, combined and formed into a new individual human soul.  This constellation of soul parts is unique and will only exist once in this form.  However, this human soul of an individual is permanently in contact with its main soul rather in the way of a radio link.  If one has lived one’s life as this unique person, all one’s soul parts will return to the main soul complete with one’s new experiences after death.  So, when I die one day as Oliver the soul aspects that made me up will merge again with my main soul.  There I am stored eternally as Oliver and will never incarnate again in this constellation.  In these circumstances no one need to fear that the soul of a loved one has already reincarnated and can no longer be encountered.  In a new incarnation new parts of my main soul would again be combined and a new individual would be formed.  This new individual soul would then also carry the experiences and memories of me (Oliver).”
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“. . . It is hard to understand this in our present human state when we all perceive ourselves so clearly as individuals on earth.  I imagine it in such a way that when we return to our main soul, we will become aware that as human beings we have actually only slipped into a role.  We will perceive ourselves as a whole main soul, but we can slip back into the respective roles of our lives at any time.”

This description is also quite close to the system as explained in many readings by the noted spiritual channeler Ron Scolastico. It appears that this "the oversoul is what survives" theory is being confirmed by multiple psychic sources.

Unfortunately, as I have mentioned, this scheme as described seems to teach that what ultimately survives physical death is a vast "oversoul" of some sort with also a vastly different personality, goals, and purposes than the just incarnated human personality which is unique to that physical life. It looks (to me at least) to essentially be another different being. The just incarnated human personality is temporary and only "survives" as memories in the oversoul, not as a sentient conscious human personality. 

So apparently we can forget about having real personal "survival" and an afterlife. What will then "perceive itself as a whole main soul" just isn't the human personality. It isn't "you", it's somebody else that survives.

I can only point out in argument that this picture seems to conflict drastically with the empirical evidence of reams of NDE accounts of consciousness continued for a time in an expanded but still human personality form after (tempory) death, and also a considerable number of verified mediumistic communications with apparently surviving deceased human personalities. It's not immediately clear how to reconcile these kinds of paranormal data with the "what survives is the oversoul" doctrine, other than to introduce several collateral hypotheses which would invoke the Occam's Razor principle of parsimony. 

This issue appears to be unresolvable at present.
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