(2021-11-04, 11:27 AM)David001 Wrote: Isn't that just plain obfuscation?
No it is an outline of a possible explanation.
Isn't dualism much more of an obfuscation?
Quote:You start with a world that contains no consciousness.
Yes there must have been a time conscious was absent in this world.
Given that we are talking about the deeply self-aware kind of consciousness that makes reflections on the nature of experience possible, that time is not that long ago in evolutionary time.
And on a personal level, that kind of consciousness is not even present in newly born.
So, yes both from an historical and personal perspective self-awareness comes into being rather gradual, which is an important observation.
Quote:Then somehow this non-conscious world creates an idea (like teacups or radios or clocks have ideas perhaps) that it must be conscious (a lot more details about this step might help).
This idea is then received by another part of the non-conscious world, and voila - we have illusory consciousness!
David if you want to ridicule an idea on the basis of an obvious straw man that shows you do not (want to?) understand it, what actually ends up being ridiculous?
"The mind is the effect, not the cause."
Daniel Dennett
Daniel Dennett