UFO crash retrieval appears to be absolutely real

I get that this sworn testimony before Congress by credible individuals that crashed alien vehicles and even alien bodies have been secretly retrieved and are undergoing continued study and reverse engineering attempts by defense contractors like Lockheed-Martin, and that this has been going on for years, is old news and the public is getting used to it especially in the total absence of physical or photographic evidence. 

And still, UFO news has a stigma attached to it. But still, to me there is something strange and suspicious about the considerable quietness of the news agencies and media about it. CNN and Fox and NBC, ABC, AP, etc. are not featuring this news.  The TV news media and even the New York Times seem to be deliberately downplaying this topic. It may be a little paranoia, but this seems to be absurd, that stuff like Lebron James's son having cardiac arrest, and a dad who's kids died in a hot car, and some naked person harassing people at his apartment complex, are put at the fore in the media, with little or no coverage of the potentially Earth-shattering UAP crash retrieval hearings. 

It almost looks to me like government manipulation of the news media to draw public attention away from this potentially explosive subject.  I think this strange news dissemination phenomenon is borderline suspected government censorship, presumably justified by the all-inclusive "vital for national security" label.

Well said!
A question for me is: How likely is it that the mainstream medias have been conditioned for so long to hold any story that could cause some deep instability in the larger culture that there's a tacit understanding to de-emphasise any information or event that would have that effect as opposed to a more direct mandate or decree from a higher source?

Well said!
A question for me is: How likely is it that the mainstream medias have been conditioned for so long to hold any story that could cause some deep instability in the larger culture that there's a tacit understanding to de-emphasise any information or event that would have that effect as opposed to a more direct mandate from a higher source?

I think simple human nature would dissipate any nascent development of such a conditioning, because without enforcement via threats of imprisonment people would tend to go with their perceived self-interest rather than idealistic concepts of doing what would supposedly be best for society. This perceived self-interest could be either to prepare the family disaster survival underground shelter for a long occupancy, or to try to somehow profit by the news, rather than go with some academician's idea that our society could collapse if people really realized that they are vulnerable low men on the totem pole as far as Galactic alien society is concerned.

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We can criticize Russ Coulhart for potentially valid reasons but in the interview I posted in the previous page he did address this issue of the absence of media coverage quite extensively.

00:24:11 Mainstream media's abject failure to cover UAPs

The latest from the UFO crash retrieval controversy.

From https://thehill.com/homenews/house/41269...t-secrets/ :

"The shocking testimony (from Grusch) now has committee members questioning how Congress should begin to investigate the witness claims and demand more answers from the executive branch on programs it claims doesn’t exist. Lawmakers hope to start with obtaining additional information and documents that Grusch said he submitted to the Pentagon’s inspector general after serving on two Defense Department task forces looking into UAPs.

To get the information from Grusch — who said he was unable to discuss specifics on what he told the Pentagon’s watchdog arm — lawmakers want to sit down with the former official in a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF) to get additional information from him. The group has been blocked, however, by officials that have informed them that Grusch doesn’t currently have security clearance to discuss the issues in a SCIF."

As you can see, one of the "retaliations" Grusch was subjected to after he disclosed the information about the crash retrieval black ops projects, was to lose his top secret compartmentalized clearances, so he now has the catch-22 situation that he can't be in the SCIF facility which is necessary in order for him to testify the details. This of course must have been deliberate and one of the key reasons he was stripped of his clearances.

It looks like the "deep state" DOD intelligence community has the resources to obstruct Congress for a long time. 

In the mean time, I'm sure they are beavering away at sowing disinformation, obtaining continuing statements that there is no evidence from UAP investigation organization officials (who of course lack the necessary clearances to get any information on this area), and suppressing any substantive reporting on the issue in the mass news media.

They sure are spending a lot of effort in trying to defuse and suppress information release on an issue that is supposed to not really exist.

Unfortunately this quashing effort seems to be rather successful so far, especially at suppressing any real interest in this matter by the news media. One of the methods must be of course to threaten loss of accreditation and interview rights for any media reporters who try to report on all of this. This might be done invisibly at the level of the news organization upper management.

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Thanks for these updates, as disappointing as they are.

It gets worse. 

Information came to my attention that Representative Mike Turner, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, has strangely ignored the explosive testimony Grusch gave to his, Turner's, senior staffers on the matter. Grusch said, “I personally briefed the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence’s staff director at the time, its General Counsels, and Congressman Turner’s personal staffer. "

The absence of any meaningful follow-up by Representative Turner, particularly considering the gravity of Grusch's allegations involving covert programs with non-human materials with zero Congressional oversight, raises considerable concerns about the Representative's approach to this crucial matter. The allegations made under oath, were deemed “credible and urgent” by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General.

After his failure to follow up and investigate these claims, in a recent interview on Fox News, Representative Turner outright dismissed the whistleblower testimony, including that given by Grusch under oath at last week's Congressional UAP Hearing. About all this, Grusch said: “Congressman Turner has not followed up with me, and based on his public statements, it appears he has not asked for a briefing on my testimony or has failed to ask the Intelligence Community’s Inspector General for more information.”

The probable reason for this strange behavior becomes apparent from the following information gleaned from admittedly obscure sources - I can't vouch for the accuracy, but the allegations have been made: Rep. Turner apparently is a notorious political pork receiver since he became Representative for the region containing Wright Patterson Air Force Base. He has been deemed a politician ‘too invested in defense contractors’ and as someone who represents ‘the unhealthy intersection between Congress and the defense sector’.

Rep. Turner at least apparently has a major conflict of interest, primarily because Lockheed Martin and other defense corporations help fund his campaigns. The truth coming out about the UFO crash retrievals hurts his benefactors so he has a strong incentive to "strangely" not push this issue further. 

This matter only shows how labyrinthine and insidious are the intelligence community's links with LM and other defense contractors and in turn, with members of Congress. I guess we shouldn't be surprised - this is just the way Washington works.

I found the whole obvious psyop that Grusch was to be rather hilarious when it broke because it showed that some people really have no idea what the life of an actual whistleblower is actually like when they're genuinely bringing real information to the table that threatens the establishment and its narratives. Because when Grusch was being put foward by the mainstream as a whistleblower, which by the way is usually a good sign that they're not legit, the hearing with Garret O'Boyle and other FBI whistleblowers was happening around the same time. And uhh, well, their experiences of what happens when you go against the state and actually try to help people is rather different than what happened with Grusch, likewise with the quality and veracity of their evidence and how they get treated in mainstream media. O'boyle's hearing itself is also hilarous to watch because of how childish and nonsensical the dems were in it, not that team pepsi or coke really care about people, both are against you, but in that instance definitely the dems were the ones to show things really are. Likewise with the RFK censorship hearing, where they tried to censor him in the ultimate of irony. Those are examples of how hearings with people with actual provable information go. Grusch's was just a bunch of nothing with no actual evidence but unfortunately people ate it up like it meant something.

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I think it is good here that we are starting to discuss the protocols and attitudes rather than the individual case.  As quoted on this site:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplaci...velations/

This type of post doesn't belong in the ECP forum, as previously explained, more than once.

A good summary of the current situation, in a new article in The Hill, at https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4...s-looming/ :

When asked during the July 26 congressional hearing whether he believes that the U.S. government possesses UFOs, Grusch stated, “Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.”

Grusch continued, “I know the exact locations [of retrieved UFOs], and those locations were provided to the inspector general and…to the [congressional] intelligence committees.” Critically, Grusch stated, “I actually had the people with the first-hand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general.”

It is unlikely that Grusch, speaking to Congress under oath, would perjure himself so brazenly over such specific, falsifiable facts, particularly with his high-profile attorney sitting directly behind him.

To that end, it is safe to assume that more than three dozen individuals did indeed tell Grusch of a decades-long UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering program, and that those with “first-hand knowledge” provided corroborating information to the intelligence community inspector general.

One theory for Grusch’s allegations is that the individuals he interviewed became convinced that decades-old myths and rumors of ultra-secret UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering programs are true. However, given the significant penalties for making false statements to an inspector general, it is extremely unlikely that multiple high-level, highly-cleared officials would falsely claim to have first-hand knowledge of myths and rumors.

Senator Rubio and Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.), a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, have stated that multiple individuals with first-hand knowledge of Grusch’s allegations have spoken to Congress.

Rubio put it succinctly: “Either what [Grusch] is saying is partially true or entirely true, or we have some really smart, educated people with high clearances and very important positions in our government who are crazy and are leading us on a goose chase.”

“Most of these people,” Rubio continued, “have held very high clearances and high positions within our government. So, you ask yourself: ‘What incentive would so many people with that kind of qualification — these are serious people — have to come forward and make something up?’”

This leaves two extraordinary possibilities — that Grusch is correct and elements within and outside of the U.S. government oversee a decades-old UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering effort – a profound, paradigm-shifting development — or, to quote Grusch, “multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former” government officials “with a long-standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country” are engaging in a brazen disinformation campaign.

As Sen. Rubio stated, if Grusch is correct, “there’s a group of people who believe that they possess something that they don’t need to share with anybody, including elected officials, who they view as temporary employees of the government.”

Rubio likened such a dynamic to “an internal military complex that’s their own government and is accountable to no one” which, (in itself) ultimately “would be a huge problem..."