Peter Fenwick's Studies of End-of-Life-Phenomena

Do you have some links to some threads where these claims are made? Not too long ago I searched for personal NDE accounts on Reddit and found nearly nothing and certainly nothing spectacular.

What... how are you conflating NDEs with reincarnation and past-life memory accounts from children...???

What... how are you conflating NDEs with reincarnation and past-life memory accounts from children...???

No. I was trying to motivate you to provide some links to those Reddit forums you mentioned since my previous attempts to find information on a similar subject came out empty handed.

No. I was trying to motivate you to provide some links to those Reddit forums you mentioned since my previous attempts to find information on a similar subject came out empty handed.

Maybe you'd do well to not be shifty with your "motivations". Just be blunt, please...

No. I was trying to motivate you to provide some links to those Reddit forums you mentioned since my previous attempts to find information on a similar subject came out empty handed.

I'm not sure you looked very hard, then. You have to think about different search terms based on the forum in question:

https://old.reddit.com/r/pastlives/searc...ance&t=all

https://old.reddit.com/r/Paranormal/sear...ance&t=all

@nbtruthman 
It's not about dismissing anything. It's a call for more honesty and less exaggeration on PsienceQuest. People don’t rise in droves every day from cardiac arrest, reporting confirmed events while outside their bodies. Kindergarten classrooms aren’t full of children talking about past lives. Quantum physics does not prove that consciousness is fundamental. I recognize there are a few NDE cases suggestive of extracorporeal consciousness, and extremely few strong cases in the Western world that are suggestive of reincarnation.

SO WHAT that multiple NDEs aren't experienced and reported every day, and the great majority of small children don't talk about past lives.

Most importantly, these facts can't do anything to prove that genuine NDEs and reincarnation cases don't exist. There are plenty of acknowledged to be real things in our society that also are rare. Rarity doesn't logically mean nonexistence. For instance, the self evident relative rarity in the population of rare diseases doesn't affect the fact that there are definitely real bodies of small numbers of real occurrences in patients with evidences of these rare diseases. Doctors and surgeons aren't going to refuse to treat and operate on patienrts because the condition being rare means it really doesn't exist, regardless of medical evidence.

Second, there are legitimate real reasons for much or most of the rarity of these paranormal phenomena in the population. In the modern Western culture and society which is overwhelmingly materialist and reductionist, paranormal events are taboo and denied . As a result of the brain washing of the population in this philosophy, reincarnation memories naturally occuring in small children are regularly discouraged or erroneously "explained" to the child as just some sort of dream or imagination, or the child may even be given mental treatment. Consequently many such children will ignore the memories and probably prematurely forget them, and the cases aren't reported Not surprisingly, there is a low incidence of reported reincarnation memories in small children.

There is also the fact that no one knows what factors trigger the reincarnation memories other than their tendency to occur when the last remembered past life had a violent traumatic death. This observed factor obviously and naturally greatly limits the occurence of reincarnation memories. For any phenomenon, there are multiple factors that limit the extent or magnitude of that phenomenon. Reincarnation is certainly a phenomenon. 

With NDEs, societal attitudes are a little better, but there still is the tendency of many medical professionals to ignore or explain away NDE accounts as hallucinations of a dying brain. Consequently many NDErs don't even talk about their experiences except maybe with trusted friends and family. There is also the fact that it is unknown what factors cause the incidence of NDEs during trauma like cardiac arrest to be a small fraction of the actual patients having those traumas. But these unknown causative factors do exist, as they do in any complex phenomenon.

Alternatively, it could be the influence of cultural surroundings that leads children to talk about these things. Small children, around 2-3 years old, often say funny things and tend to repeat what they hear from adults. Also remember it's the parents that contacted the "reincarnation" scientists so obviously there's a heavy confirmation biases going on beforehand any of these cases.


I'm shocked that anyone can convince themselves of such a convenient excuse to preserve their faith.

I don't think there is much evidence for or against reincarnation, but I think there is plenty of evidence that people do appear to recall experiences which are not their own (NDE OBE, Premonition, Apparition, Telepathy, and Past Lives etc), and I don't see why children are any different. Indeed they learn by having huge non-linear bursts of network creation, and the networks not used are eliminated by erosion.

I think there's a greater probability of anomalous recall in children in countries where birth control is not as easily available, and/or where knowledge of extra marital/pre-marital sex, and rape, can have more severe consequences on the mother (honour  killings etc), and/or where societies have more violent crime/murders etc. and obviously higher birth rates and higher population densities also increase the probability too.

I don't think there is much evidence for or against reincarnation, but I think there is plenty of evidence that people do appear to recall experiences which are not their own (NDE OBE, Premonition, Apparition, Telepathy, and Past Lives etc), and I don't see why children are any different. Indeed they learn by having huge non-linear bursts of network creation, and the networks not used are eliminated by erosion.

I think there's a greater probability of anomalous recall in children in countries where birth control is not as easily available, and/or where knowledge of extra marital/pre-marital sex, and rape, can have more severe consequences on the mother (honour  killings etc), and/or where societies have more violent crime/murders etc. and obviously higher birth rates and higher population densities also increase the probability too.

Not very much evidence for or against reincarnation? I guess that depends on how you define the term "evidence". This assertion of there not being much evidence either way ignores the hundreds of 'solved' cases in many countries investigated by Stevenson, Tucker and colleagues and other researchers, now even in Japan (see this former thread on the subject of the investigations of Japanese reincarnation cases recently documented in Katsugoro and Other Reincarnation Cases in Japan, by Ohkado Masayuki (White Crow Books, https://whitecrowbooks.com/books/page/ka..._in_japan/ ). This former thread was at https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-r...4#pid57114 .

In order to validly say that all these bodies of evidence don't exist you have to be able to debunk all the detailed research findings, including especially, the birthmark/birth defect cases. Good luck.

Grouping obviously separate distantly related and having diverse causes paranormal phenomena together (like NDE OBEs, apparitions, telepathy, etc.) as probably just children "learning by having huge non-linear bursts of network creation" is not helpful, in fact this assertion is clearly erroneous since it reduces all these diverse well evidenced paranormal phenomena down to merely childrens' natural growing neural network symptoms and hallucinations. And again ignoring a boatload of evidence.

Of the ones that you list, I think the only valid suggested partial cause for there being more reported cases of reincarnation in certain regions and countries, is the perhaps higher prevalence of violent traumatic death. And your suggested list ignores the most obvious cause of there being some countries and cultures with much higher incidence of reported reincarnation memories - the societal/cultural/religious attitudes and belief structures in these various countries, which dramatically effect how often anomalous apparent past life memories uttered by young children are taken seriously and not demeaned and ignored as hallucinations of a growing brain.

"Ego death", in popular psychedelic literature, is a temporary transcendence of this usual sense of self, to a varying degree of becoming one with the godhead, yet can also include simply being able to look outside the ego-personality, to see beyond, to not be bound by your ego's structures and habits.

Thanks, somehow that doesn't sound as significant as "EGO death"!

David

having huge non-linear bursts of network creation

Sorry, I guess I am in jargon busting mode! What the hell does that mean?

David