Drones or UFOs?

We are told that there are many drones in operation round significant buildings and airbases in the US, and also to some extent here in the UK. There are also pictures of multiples of these things flying in the sky.

The videos look remarkably similar to UFOs, as does the fact that nobody seems to be doing anything about them - such as to shoot one down.

Can anyone here add to these thoughts?

David

Government-controlled drones or UFOs, obviously enough. They never shoot down what the military deems useful.

We are told that there are many drones in operation round significant buildings and airbases in the US, and also to some extent here in the UK. There are also pictures of multiples of these things flying in the sky.

The videos look remarkably similar to UFOs, as does the fact that nobody seems to be doing anything about them - such as to shoot one down.

Can anyone here add to these thoughts?

David

This latest development of the UFO phenomenon where many current "UAP" cases are now turning out really to be somebody's drones presumably manufactured on Earth, complicates the identification process in trying to identify true UFOs, that is, apparent visitors from from somewhere else than the Earth. However, true UFOs can be easily distinguished from drones by the fact that the true UFOs demonstrate flight characteristics way beyond anything acheived by Earth aeronautics (such as sudden right-angle turns while travelling at thousands of miles per hour according to radar. Drones are typically low and slow. 

One interpretation (though I think it is unlikely) is that this is an example of a phenomenon hypothesized to have occurred in the past in the history of the UFO phenomenon, where the reported types and characteristics of apparent vehicles seems strangely to somewhat mimic the current state of the art military technological aeronautical designs being experimented with and fielded by our country. Such as the period when large triangular UFOs were being reported seeming to replace the former saucer-shaped and cylindrical craft, corresponding to the period when our advanced military aerospace industry was introducing large tailless triangular shaped bombers like the B-2. This would be interpreted as perhaps evidence that the UFO phenomenon is really generated by some sort of collective unconscious of mankind, where great public concerns and anxieties are somehow manifested psychically in the skies. This theory could also perhaps be evidenced by the fact that the UFO phenomenon appeared early in the atomic age.

One last interpretation: The true UFO vehicle "pilots" are interested in surruptitiously monitoring humanity's level of science and technology and closeness to atomic self-destruction, and they intend to intervene if necessary, and to do this are deliberately monitoring our technological level by concentrating on military aircraft development, nuclear plants and Air Force bases holding atomic weapons, using UFO vehicles mimicing Earth-manufactured drones.

As someone skeptical of ETH, especially if we're talking about governments having crashed vehicles, I think the drones are just human made devices.

It is possible that there will be a case of a genuine UAP/UFO that is mistaken for a drone, but as @nbtruthman notes there are enough differences that this seems less likely.

One last interpretation: The true UFO vehicle "pilots" are interested in surruptitiously monitoring humanity's level of science and technology and closeness to atomic self-destruction, and they intend to intervene if necessary, and to do this are deliberately monitoring our technological level by concentrating on military aircraft development, nuclear plants and Air Force bases holding atomic weapons, using UFO vehicles mimicing Earth-manufactured drones.

The problem with that is that we have been capable of self-destruction for many years now (or at least so we are told) and it doesn't seem obvious how 'they' would be able to stop the process at very short notice.

Howver, I have seen it suggested that the components of a fission bomb rapidly warp and degrade because of the large amount of radiation inside such a device. This destroys the electronics and the warping destroys the precision fit of the parts of the bomb required to produce the spherical implosion required. Since fusion bombs use a fission bomb trigger, this applies to them also. Weapons require regular 'refurbishment' in which the fissile material is dissolved in acid, purified, and rebuilt. Presumably the rest of the bomb is completely replaced.

This might suggest that any nuclear exchange might be a bit spotty.

David

The problem with that is that we have been capable of self-destruction for many years now (or at least so we are told) and it doesn't seem obvious how 'they' would be able to stop the process at very short notice.

Howver, I have seen it suggested that the components of a fission bomb rapidly warp and degrade because of the large amount of radiation inside such a device. This destroys the electronics and the warping destroys the precision fit of the parts of the bomb required to produce the spherical implosion required. Since fusion bombs use a fission bomb trigger, this applies to them also. Weapons require regular 'refurbishment' in which the fissile material is dissolved in acid, purified, and rebuilt. Presumably the rest of the bomb is completely replaced.

This might suggest that any nuclear exchange might be a bit spotty.

David

My suggestion was that in the perhaps unlikely scenario that the alien UFO pilot beings are altruistic and wish to preserve our civilization despite ourselves, these beings, possessing a vastly advanced technology and science perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ahead of our own, would have the capability to intervene and perhaps simply remotely deactivate our weapons of mass destruction. As has been observed, a sufficiently advanced science and technology would be indistinguishable from magic.

My suggestion was that in the perhaps unlikely scenario that the alien UFO pilot beings are altruistic and wish to preserve our civilization despite ourselves, these beings, possessing a vastly advanced technology and science perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ahead of our own, would have the capability to intervene and perhaps simply remotely deactivate our weapons of mass destruction. As has been observed, a sufficiently advanced science and technology would be indistinguishable from magic.

I'd also be interested to discover what you think of my suspicion about nuclear weapons aging.

David

I'd also be interested to discover what you think of my suspicion about nuclear weapons aging.

David

I agree that nuclear weapons deteriorate with age and need to be maintained. I understand that the US is presently spending an ungodly amount of billions of dollars in refurbishing our H-bomb nuclear deterrent missile warheads and bombs. I don't think that the US nuclear weapons have been allowed to significantly deteriorate, but that does not apply to Russia for instance, where the report is that due to rampant corruption and economic troubles their nuclear arsenal is only partially effective. This makes Putin's continual threats of using nuclear weapons if we or the Ukranians step over their "red line" at least partially empty. However, we have to assume that they have been able to maintain at least enough warheads to offer a very serious threat of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) if it comes to WW III.

I agree that nuclear weapons deteriorate with age and need to be maintained. I understand that the US is presently spending an ungodly amount of billions of dollars in refurbishing our H-bomb nuclear deterrent missile warheads and bombs. I don't think that the US nuclear weapons have been allowed to significantly deteriorate, but that does not apply to Russia for instance, where the report is that due to rampant corruption and economic troubles their nuclear arsenal is only partially effective. This makes Putin's continual threats of using nuclear weapons if we or the Ukranians step over their "red line" at least partially empty. However, we have to assume that they have been able to maintain at least enough warheads to offer a very serious threat of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) if it comes to WW III.

Swiftly side-stepping the politics implicit in that remark, your reply does confirm that if, for example if Russia lost a number of warheads around the turn of the century, these will hopefully be dead by now - but not something I would like to rely on!

David

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Ross Coulthart in his Reality Check show for NewsNation has an interesting two-part show on this from about a week ago. The TL;DR: nobody, including the relevant authorities, seems to know the origin of these craft nor whether or not all of them truly are drones.

Part one: Drone mystery is 'worldwide,' not just in New Jersey: Ross Coulthart

Part two: Reporter sees New Jersey drones firsthand: 'It's really unnerving' | Reality Check