(2025-01-17, 10:49 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: Before even remotely considering the Third Way thinking I would need there to be plausible rebuttals to all the major arguments for ID, including the actual fossil record especially the Cambrian Explosion, the ubiquitous presence in all living organisms of irreducible complexity, and the wait time problem. Do you know of some?
StephenW is the only person here who is interested in the Third Way of evolution, so I am really glad he has joined this discussion.
It seems to me that we have reached a 3-way impass:
The Neo Darwinists simply assert that evolution has to occur by changes to the genome that get there by chance but are then subjected to selection.
The ID crowd (of which I consider myself an informal member) claim that it is easy to calculate how impossibly inefficient RM+NS would be, therefore a genetic designer is needed.
The Third Way, that claims to be totally materialistic while asserting that evolution can take place in other ways, and that you can see it happening in all sorts of studies.
Here is a review of a book that is supposed to explain the Third Way:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Four-...B08BT5YBHH
I am still hesitating to buy this book because the extra mechanisms don't sound very exciting:
Epigenetic inheritance isn't permanent, and we are talking long term, I presume.
The other mechanisms mentioned - behavioural or symbolic - don't seem to be up to much if we are thinking about large-scale evolution (bearing in mind that small-scale evolution is possible by RM+NS).
So come on Stephen - tell me what I am missing?
My feeling is that the evidence for evolution discovered by the Third Way people, simply has to be evidence of continuous ID!
David