Dualism or idealist monism as the best model for survival after death data

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(2024-10-08, 03:39 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: Skeptics who make fun of this kind of stuff are actually indulging in what they always try to deride - their own form of wish fulfillment with fear at its base that their lifetime of dedication to the materialist cause was ultimately wrong. That a lifetime of living and working in a continuous indoctrination and brainwashing by the media and academia in a nihilistic reductionist materialist view of reality (essentially scientism - making a pseudo-religion out of science), was ultimately totally mistaken. Nobody wants to feel that way about their life - that all that effort and preaching the cause was actually pointless and mistaken. So the pseudo skeptics (not really legitimate skeptics since reductive materialism is a faith religion to them) are themselves driven by fear.

Proponents of the paranormal in contrast don't base their beliefs in the primacy of consciousness on defense of the ego and fear of death, but on multiple solid philosophical/metaphysical arguments showing that materialism is invalid and that consciousness is transcendental and immaterial in nature, and on a massive amount of experimental and empirical evidence for the existence of an afterlife and a whole spiritual dimension to human life and reality. They are following both pure philosophical logic and the data, and in any case will generally admit that their belief system is not a total faith but a data-based non-faith-based belief that is always in some degree partial - though for many up in the over 95% region. Unlike followers of the faith-based pseudo-religion of scientism, paranormal proponents generally don't profess absolute certainty - just a fairly great degree of certainty.

I think fear of Hell also drives a lot of this on a somewhat subconscious level.

I myself wasn't raised to think I could be eternally damned, rather Hell is a temporary cleansing place between incarnations. 

As such I feel I am more rational than many Western "skeptics" whose drivers seem irrational to point they'll accept any absurdity so long as it can cut "God" out of the picture.

Really I find pseudo-skeptics to be quite weak minded generally speaking...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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RE: Dualism or idealist monism as the best model for survival after death data - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-10-08, 08:17 PM

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