Dualism or idealist monism as the best model for survival after death data

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(2024-09-07, 02:42 AM)Valmar Wrote: It indeed does when there has never been any identified mechanisms by which consciousness interacts with matter, nor can there logically be, because mechanisms are only within physical-to-physical systems.

For consciousness... vibrational resonance feels like the more appropriate concept, though that can be a supremely vague idea to anyone who hasn't experienced it. I guess it's a sort of... pull towards something, where energies are similar or compatible.

Materialists immediately dismiss such ideas, because it smacks of "woo", but it explains why any medicines or healing techniques of a vibrational nature appear to work. Acupuncture and acupressure work on these principles, I think ~ stimulating certain energies that will invigorate the body to heal. Qi Gong and Tai Chi certainly work by these principles. Herbal medicines may be physical, but even in China are they based on certain principles related to being Yin or Yang, meaning that different bodies will respond differently depending on how they resonate with the specific energies of the herbs.

In terms of physical forms... it might explain why are the NDEr is drawn a specific body when they're sent back ~ they resonate with the residual energies still, being so freshly from that shell. In astral projection OBEs, they speak of a silver cord that connects them to their body, which is sometimes difficult to stretch, allowing to travel further and further, according to Robert Monroe's works.

So... structure... do structures have certain... signatures to them? Does intention matter? Desire? The purpose for which they're made? The mindset of the inventor being imprinted onto the structure in some non-physical manner? Maybe this is how psychometry works, to some degree? Ah, speculation...


I know in my experience that it can be quite simultaneous, though time between each universe does not at flow uniformly... I've been in futures, then pasts, in those universes, and it was seamless. It was very strange. I don't yet understand how it works, nor why. It makes me wonder about free will... perhaps there is still free will, even though there are constraints to the range of free will.


Each life I've observed so far has had different sets of experiences that seem to be teaching different things. It's like... multitasking, I suppose.

I see a lot of general experiences that have nothing to do with entertainment, and more to do with... understanding what this or that means, how to integrate certain ideas, dealing with different sets of circumstances.

The common theme seems to be of having experiences that will teach us one thing or another. Some think that we go to learn, in the sense of a school... I used to think this until I realized that we never learn anything from some experiences, or never seem to. So, it led me to think that the experience comes first, and then we draw a personal lesson out of the experience.

Like... fire. What is it? Oh, it's hot. Oh, it burns. Ouch, my finger is scorched. It blisters. Well, the lesson is obvious ~ fire can be dangerous if approached unwisely. We come into the world with some built-in knowledge and understanding of things ~ instincts. But other things we have to learn about.

So... maybe we come into the world to understand what it is like to be this or that, or to do this or that, not understanding the consequences prior in our ignorance. Maybe we know the theory of something, but not what it is actually like in and of itself. So we come to see what it's actually like.

Imagine... skydiving, or some other daunting activity you've never done, but have curiosity towards. Or maybe some daunting activity you've done, imagining what your mindset was like prior to doing the experience ~ the curiosity towards it.

Often we do things because they're exciting or difficult, because we like to be challenged. Pain is expected, suffering is optional. Mindset seems to be key.

But not all enjoy the consequences of their actions... and that's where some of the biggest personal lessons arise, some of the most powerful motivators for growth. The bigger the fall, the more potential we have for rising higher. Yes, it flips that trope around, but I feel it appropriate.

Half working on intuition here, as I'm in the right mindset for it, apparently. It is what it is. Fleeting, but useful.

/ramble

Uh... yeah, I hope it was half-relevant. Sorry if I went off-topic, heh.

This is an important idealistic general claim. I have to mostly disagree - there are a multitude of relatively common in human life experiences of extreme suffering that only a sanctified saint could perhaps rise above by the mantra mindset that the body may suffer but the mind and soul sits above and does not have to suffer. It's just the state of mind. Sure, in some ultimate sense. But experiencing this state is very rare and against common human nature. Many forms of extreme pain are deeply designed into the human body, are "hard wired" into our brains, so that intense physical pain just IS suffering by automatic instinct.

A few examples of intense pain that the great majority of humans are mostly compelled by their very natures to experience when various misfortunes occur. Ever experience an intractible big kidney stone try and fail to squeeze itself out?  Try rising above that. Bone cancer metastatizing. Losing a precious loved child to accident or disease. 

I think it is too much to expect the ordinary vast majority of humans to somehow miraculously "rise above" such experiences by some sort of trance-like spiritual realization of the truth of things- that they are spiritual beings inhabiting physical bodies and need not fear any real damage whatever the severity. People in general don't work like that, just the occasional rare very spiritual person who has devoted a lifetime to spiritual practices, and even they can fail.
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