(2021-01-27, 10:10 PM)Smaw Wrote: No it's about your talking about the hard problem and David Chalmers.
I only brought that up because of Paul's first reply to the Kauffman presentation video.
I assume this detour comes back to that video in some way?
edit: So it doesn't get lost in the weeds, this video ->
Quote:Neurobiologists believe the mind brain system is and must be classical physics. For many, at some complexity, consciousness arises. This could be correct but faces what I will call the Stalemate: Such a mind can at most witness the world but, due to the causal closure of classical physics, cannot act upon that world. Such a consciousness must be merely epiphenomenal.
Quantum biology is exploding, showing that quantum effects can and do arise at body temperature. Quantum mechanics allows a partially quantum mind to have ACAUSAL consequences for the “meat” of the brain, thus solving the Stalemate and answering the problem posed by Descartes’ Res cogitans and Res extensa: i.e. the Stalemate.
Our human capacity to choose, in turn, demands that the present could have been different, thus the truth of counterfactual claims. If quantum measurement is indeterministic and real, quantum mechanics and measurement allow the present to be different. I shall discuss these issues and the newly discovered Poised Realm, hovering reversibly between quantum and “classical” behaviors, as a new basis both for the mind body system and a new class of constructable and evolvable “computers” which are not algorithmic, Trans Turing.
Kauffman himself is something of a Physicalist so I figured maybe this would be of interest. For proponents it offers an interesting vehicle for which the soul intersects with the body, how non-local anomalous info transfer (aka Psi) might occur, probably some other things...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'
- Bertrand Russell
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- Bertrand Russell