Free will re-redux

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(2020-12-22, 12:35 AM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: I mean what Thomas Nail said in that last post I replied to you, that matter is moving in a way that is not deterministic but still within a web of causality.

Or another way of saying this is there's a valid materialism where matter can move in ways that violate a supposed randomness/deterministic dichotomy.

I assume it's still "No" from you?

Basically the problem is not consciousness-possibility-seleciton exclusively, it's the violation of the randomness/deterministic dichotomy...right?
I agree that random events occur within a web of causality. I'm just not sure why I should believe that there are nonrandom indeterministic events. I also agree that stochastic processes that are not uniformly random are interesting. I'm not sure photon reflection is one of them, but particle decay appears to be.

The problem isn't the violation of the dichotomy per se. I'm willing to believe that I simply cannot conceive of a third possibility. So I'm looking for a description that sounds compelling.

~~ Paul
If the existence of a thing is indistinguishable from its nonexistence, we say that thing does not exist. ---Yahzi
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Free will re-redux - by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos - 2020-11-06, 01:06 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Smaw - 2020-11-06, 03:42 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-11-07, 07:03 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Smaw - 2020-11-06, 04:09 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-06, 04:10 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-07, 10:35 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-07, 05:53 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-11-07, 07:56 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-08, 01:24 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Steve001 - 2020-11-08, 03:40 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-08, 04:50 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Steve001 - 2020-11-08, 06:13 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-08, 07:10 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Steve001 - 2020-11-08, 09:40 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Steve001 - 2020-11-08, 09:40 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-11, 10:32 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Laird - 2020-11-06, 04:27 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Kamarling - 2020-11-07, 12:17 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Laird - 2020-11-06, 04:37 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Ninshub - 2020-11-06, 05:31 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by tim - 2020-11-06, 06:03 PM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Smaw - 2020-11-06, 09:37 PM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Smaw - 2020-11-07, 02:02 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Typoz - 2020-11-07, 09:23 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by nbtruthman - 2020-11-07, 09:40 AM
RE: Free will re-redux - by Smaw - 2020-11-07, 09:51 AM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-12-27, 10:28 AM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Brian - 2020-11-14, 06:27 PM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-11-07, 08:53 PM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-11-08, 12:04 AM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2020-11-08, 02:40 AM
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RE: Free will re-redux - by Kamarling - 2020-11-10, 03:01 AM
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