Wikipedia bias (again)

[Laird]

Thanks to Kamarling and the rest of the moderation team for so aptly making one of the important points for me.

That this board has a topical focus which moderators enforce isn't a point in your favour. It's simply what the community has democratically chosen. Nobody's stopping you from talking about whatever you want to talk about on this board, but if it's not topical and is sociopolitically controversial (e.g., COVID-19), then you need to talk about it in the opt-in forums. We all know that you are opposed to this arrangement. Nevertheless, most of us see it as the most happy compromise: those who want to discuss sociopolitically controversial topics can do so, and those who do not wish to see those discussions can choose to ignore them. So, yes, there is an important point here: that everybody is served in this way. You should probably learn to live with it.

and those who do not wish to see those discussions can choose to ignore them

Yes, isn’t it ‘funny’ that although I’m ignored by Kamarling, and have been for ages, he somehow manages to make a comment about my post which gets my posts removed.

[Laird]

Yes, isn’t it ‘funny’ that although I’m ignored by Kamarling, and have been for ages, he somehow manages to make a comment about my post which gets my posts removed.

It's sad that the two of you have an ongoing clash of personalities. I recently looked back into the origins of that clash and can't say that you are blameless, although of course you were not alone in culpability, and I understand (to the best of my current ability) your motivations, in which I think you are well-meaning. In any case, posts in this thread were moved by general agreement of active moderators/founders, not by decree of Kamarling.

Is no one taking the bait in the opt in forums enough so that the trolling has to infect the main area of the forum?

This forum was founded because of the direction that Skeptiko was taking. Back then Steve (Stan) was one of the founders. Perhaps his reasons were different to mine and others but I think there was mostly a consensus that we disliked the way that Skeptiko was veering away from the subject matter that had attracted many of us and diving down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. 

I am not a moderator here. I do not make administrative decisions but I do make my thoughts known to those who do. I am clear that If this forum heads off in a similar direction to Skeptiko then my days here are numbered. I was against even the opt-in sub forums because I was afraid of them becoming the main focus. That’s where the friction between myself and Stan started and I am sad that it still appears to be driving the conversation today.

Regarding Wikipedia was discussing Bohm with a group of friends and found his Wikipedia page to be more balanced. It mentions his interest in consciousness and his working with the mystic Krishnamurti.

I think when a scientist has enough fans like Bohm does, many in academia itself, you can correct for the people who would want to label anything "pseudo-science" that doesn't fit the materialist faith.

Funny how the "pseudo-science" label doesn't apply to MWI...

Anyway I wouldn't worry overmuch about Wikipedia, one day this current generation of pseudo-skeptics sitting on the pages will move on and it will correct. That or Wikipedia will implode as an organization.

p.s. As for general academic acceptance of Psi it seems to me my prediction of 25-30 years is still on track. :-)

p.s. As for general academic acceptance of Psi it seems to me my prediction of 25-30 years is still on track. :-)

About the same timescale as a practical nuclear fusion generator.
I wonder which will happen first?

About the same timescale as a practical nuclear fusion generator.
I wonder which will happen first?

Ah but fusion is always exactly "10 years away", just as most diets are begun "tomorrow". ;-)

I will keep to my dates and eat crow if I'm wrong.

In 25 to 30 years I'll be 95 - 100 so, if I survive that long (which I very much doubt) I don't think I'll care. I'll be too busy wondering what kind of life I'll be born into the next time. I do hope your optimism is justified for the sake of my future incarnation.