NDE's

Very similar to the report from Mario Dalla Torre (above), Bill English, a 41 year old American father from Utah, was equally severely injured when the quad bike he was riding, flipped over on him.

He reported two near death experiences during periods in coma and in the first one, claims to have seen (from a position above) his dead relatives placing their hands on his body (for whatever reason). This occurred during a real physical "religious blessing" apparently.    

It doesn't prove anything but it's interesting that these things seem to occur everywhere.

https://www.kued.org/whatson/utah-conver...tin-tanner go to 6.10

Dale Chormanski was on his way home from a Bruce Springsteen concert in Cleveland Ohio, when he experienced sudden cardiac arrest and died. His daughter (who was driving) pulled over in an underpass and dragged him out of the car to perform CPR, having previously called for help.

Whilst he was dead (he claims) he clearly remembered seeing (from above) the EMT's lifting his body into the ambulance. They were all dressed in their dark coloured uniform/overalls but there was another "figure" there (with them) apparently, which ties in with the two reports above.

Chormanski is well aware that some people will think "he's nuts" but states he is just relating what he saw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez5LjiI4vfU

He was inspired to write a book which is available to read in part here. (note to moderators this is available on line but if I've broken any rules by linking to it, feel free to delete it.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FE1u...ce&f=false

Vinzenz Hensle was a down to earth (in every sense) farmer/bricklayer and grape grower. In 2011, whilst negotiating his tractor and grass cutter down a steep slope on his land, a mosquito flew into his eye, causing him to lose control of the machine.

He realised he was in serious trouble and leapt off the vehicle, down into some thorny bushes below, where he landed and stood up. Unfortunately, the tractor and the grass cutter followed his trajectory and landed right on top of him, leaving him critically injured.  Somehow he managed to summon his brother with his mobile phone, before losing consciousness.

During his near death experience, he encountered "beings" that told him he was going to become something of a painter (artist). As totally surprised and bewildered as he was anyway, about finding himself in this new "world", Hensle was also at a loss to know how he was going to achieve this goal, because for a man like him, such a thing was nothing short of "impossible"(as he describes).

This link takes you to his website where you can see the actual photographs of himself at the accident scene, including the emergency personnel and the air ambulance that took him to hospital.

http://vinzenzh.de/Home

On the same website his paintings can also be viewed which appear to have received some level of critical acclaim. What I find totally bizarre, is that someone like Hensle, a very ordinary and practical man, more used to handling a shovel than a paint brush, would suddenly develop the desire to become an abstract painter, in the first place. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjk0Oks_B2w

With thanks to Empirische Jenseitsforschung

Swiss bike builder and rider, Livio Kägi, was in Spain (at Christmas) training for the winter superbike races. During high speed braking, his tyres unfortunately hit an oil patch, which catapulted him over the handle bars, sixty metres into the air. This mishap known as a "highsider", is obviously potentially fatal.  

Kägi landed on his head, smashing his helmet and then experienced an aspect of 'existence' that he'd never previously been interested in. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKlu7kA0Uq4

With thanks to Empirische Jenseitsforschung

This is an interesting verified* veridical case (he claims*). Frédéric Medina was admitted to hospital (April 2009 in an emergency) to deal with a critical problem with his heart, which was surrounded by a large sack of fluid (apparently).

He describes leaving his body in the operating room and going through the wall into a kitchen/dining area, where he was able to see the remnants of a chicken meal and bottles of wine left on a table. Feeling he could instantly be anywhere he wanted to be (and travelling there) he then reports going to his home where he saw his family sitting at the dining table in the dark, due to a blackout caused by an electrical storm. He tried to tell them where the key to the drawer was that the candles and matches were kept in and to reassure them that he was okay, but of course without success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_qNH28f9sU

I didn't originally know that he'd put his experience up on NDERF which is translated here (obviously not perfectly even though I can't say exactly why) 

 https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1frederic_m_nde.html

My short summary and the NDERF translation are the only accessible sources (for us English speakers) but this man has obviously experienced something very profound as he gives frequent talks and lectures about what happened to him.

In a video (which I can't seem to find but which I have definitely seen) he interviews a nurse who works in the hospital where he had his experience and she confirmed that indeed there was a kitchen next to the operating room (where he left his body) which I find interesting. For the sceptics of course, that won't mean anything (as usual)

However, this seems to be another example of instantaneous OBE/NDE travelling with verified information, to add to the many others already in the literature.

I don't know how many members are aware of Brazilian physicist Carlos Mendes and Dr Edson Amancio's you tube Channel, AFTER ALL, WHAT ARE WE?

There are now a large number of retrospective interviews with NDErs conducted in that country by Mendes (mostly) and Amancio occasionally.

This is the most recent interview which is the report from a young woman who tried to commit suicide (by swallowing pills). Her out of body experiences are remarkable (if correct). We must be wary of course of just accepting what someone says happened but it appears to be an honest account and I have seen many others like this. I would add that Carlos does his utmost to check them out before recording.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ZbXqQW1cM&t=725s And for those that may have already seen it, apologies. 

Just out of interest, the young woman (Rafaella) describes encountering an all knowing presence/voice. Nadia McCaffrey (in her suicide caused second NDE) reports something very similar here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mL-2f4FNPs (@ 23.00).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RTcdMNLmSE

8 year old Frau Isabel Waller-Rigo was performing some after school gymnastics (vaulting) when she fell and banged her head on the floor.

In her desire to summon help (from an adult) during the first part of her out of body experience, she describes her hand (astral ?) passing through the door handle (which is not uncommonly reported). Sceptics consider these memories to be simply confabulations of some type... she only imagined she was out of her body but wasn't really, of course...basically a mind model. Why then did her mind create a model where her hand couldn't interact with the door handle ? It seems illogical. 

This is a summary of what she experienced:
 
I fell to the ground from a 160-cm-high vaulting box and struck my head violently on the ground. When it happened, from above, I saw myself lying on the ground and saw the reaction of my friends to the incident.

 At that time, I was about 8 or 9 years old, and my view of life changed 360 degrees since that moment.

I didn't know what was happening to me. I knew I (my body) was on the ground, but I was flying! My body was down on the ground and I (my consciousness) flew to the ceiling! I felt light...I didn't feel the impact of my head on the ground ! 'Was I dead now?' I asked myself.   Then I got a bit panicky and wanted to get help from an adult, but there were none around as this happened in the afternoon after lessons in a hallway of the school.

We had been waiting for our music/trumpet lesson teacher. Closely attached to the school was a gym and only a big wooden door separated the hallway and gym from each other, I deliberately flew there, but when I tried to open the door, my hand slid  through the door handle and then I realized that I didn't have a physical body anymore! But as I wanted help, I thought I would try to get through the wooden door, maybe someone might be there in the gym! I deliberately walked through the door with my body but when I entered (the gym) there was nobody there.

Then I went back through the door again back to the corridor where my body was. I called out to my friends but they didn't see or hear me! At that moment, I looked up to the ceiling and there was a long dark tunnel that had a bright, shining light at the end, brighter than the sun, it was crystal clear. It pulled me (toward it) and when I arrived at the end, there was a female spiritual person that I didn't know! She asked me if I wanted to go back in my body and continue with my life or would I like to stay in the astral world. Well...I stood and thought (about it) while I saw a fast-moving movie of my future and I decided I would go back into my body, to make that life (I had just seen) possible for all involved !

The moment I decided to return, I flew back down through the tunnel. Before I went back into my physical body (with my astral energy body)  I stood next to my physical body lying flat on the ground and looked at it ( I had no pain in the astral body) and then I let my astral body down (into the physical body) My physical body and my astral body joined and from then on I began to feel all the pain that I had suffered from the impact. And it was sickeningly bad for me. I opened my eyes and I could only vaguely recognize my friends who were with me and wanted to help.  I went to the bathroom and vomited. (Soon) I was picked up by my parents and after a few days I was able to recover.

But this experience did not leave my mind and I was so preoccupied with it that I told my parents. But they and all the others I told didn't believe that what I experienced was real. Today, I can understand very well that this (experience) was incomprehensible to someone who hasn't experienced it. For years I carried it in my heart like a great treasure and kept it to myself.  I searched for explanations in books, thinking maybe there are other people who have experienced something similar. And in fact, I did come across some books that dealt with the subject. That calmed me down a lot so I could spend my youth in a reasonably normal way. 

With thanks to Empirische Jenseitsforschung

A short piece on the experiences of dying patients (near death in hospital) from hospital Chaplain, David Harrison.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019...-127422557

As usual, it attracted quite a bit of attention, with over two hundred comments (in four days) from the usual mix of atheists, sceptics (some phoney), believers, experiencers, bible thumpers and crackpots.....   

"Im sorry to tell you Mr Harrison - hospital chaplain - there is no proven afterlife, no heaven or hell, there certainly is no existence of a god and/or a supernatural state in our human existance. Underlying your article is your implicit belief in this mumbo jumbo. We have in all of our existence uncovered no scientific confirmation of a god or a supernatural state. The Randi one million dollar reward for proof of this remains unclaimed. It includes the proof of the existence of goblins, fairies, ufos, invisible beings etc etc even water diving is on the list. None of it is real only the belief. That belief exists only in the human mind....."

"Sad to say it is more likely just the brain playing tricks on you. I am not doubting for one second that people have these experiences, but it is about understanding the causes.
You see the thing is, only people who are still alive can report them, the dead can't. What does this tell us? It tells us the brain at that point is still active, there is the clue.....

"My granddad, probably the least spiritual man every to walk the earth had an experience shortly before he died. He felt that he floated out of his body, outside the hospital window and went up to the roof. He didn't find it a comfort though, it seemed to scare him."

"He needs to read the bible.
Gen 3:15 In the Sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken . For dust you are and to dust you will return."

"My grandfather told me that he'd had an experience like this, not so long before he died. I cannot stress enough that he was a lifelong atheist, and had been hostile to religion of any kind following a traumatic experience when he was younger.
He'd been diagnosed with cancer in his 80s and decided to let nature run its course rather than put himself through debilitating, life-extending treatment. He had a comfortable year and a half before he gradually became bed-ridden, before he lost all of his strength and most of his motor functions.
The last time I saw him, he told me that a week before he'd found himself drifting into death. He said it was warm, and lovely, and that there was nothing to be afraid of. He knew that if he let himself succumb, he'd be going somewhere wonderful...…

"I had a very real dream about Elvis once. He was just there , appearing before me. I was quite annoyed because it was a nice dream and I've never been into Elvis. But then it stuck me , millions must fall asleep hoping to dream of Elvis , and here he was in my dream ! I've never touched alcohol since."

This NDE video from Empirische Jenseitsforschung is related by a young Muslim woman who has subsequently started her own you tube channel, specifically aimed at trying to get the 'message' of NDE's through to Muslim countries where orthodox 'dogma' prevails.

Frau Amal Binz was flying to Morocco to receive some kind of medical treatment but appears to have collapsed on the plane. She describes feeling very ill and holding a Koran (reading for comfort?) which slipped out of her hands...and then when she leant down to retrieve it, her body "fell off her" (she said) whereupon she found herself at the back of the plane (observing).

It's a bit confusing because she describes hearing an explosion and smelling smoke (without an explanation) but the most important point is her apparent success (to whatever degree) in some Islamic countries at bringing to light the positive, non religious nature and themes contained in NDE reports (in general) and thereby eliciting many previous NDE's kept secret (in those countries) via her channel. 

Don't know how others feel, but I've always hoped that the phenomenon of NDE's (investigated by science), would eventually bring to an end? the conflict blighting the world (suicide bombers etc) and rooted in the absurdities and practices of religion(s).   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLIwEIMbYs

Link to Frau Binz's channel 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSH3...