@Mediochre Thanks for your perspective, it's interesting to hear.
Doug's anomalous experiences
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(2019-04-01, 04:52 PM)Doug Wrote: 04 - Phone Call Another great story I suppose the mundane explanation might be that your step father was half asleep and called you while partially dreaming and so had no recollection of it later. I've been told I talk in my sleep on occasion and when I was younger I used to sleep walk a lot, so it isn't beyond the realm of possibility he could have called you while half asleep. That doesn't explain the issues with your cell phone not working initially and then the message mysteriously disappearing. A more interesting explanation is that perhaps being near death made it a bit easier for him to do things out of body or poltergeist, and so while he was a sleep (and possibly truly having difficulty breathing while asleep), part of him managed to break away and poltergeist a phone call to you.
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FWIW, in case there are any doubters about Doug's sincerity with these accounts, which I'm sure is not the case for the people already frequenting this forum, I can vouch for the No. 4 Phone Call account, to some degree, as it was during this period that Doug and I had just started our friendship through PM'ing on the previous forum. I remember Doug sharing the details of it to me as it was happening.
I have yet to catch up with all the posts in this thread but your floodlamp experience reminded me of something that happened when I lived in a shared house once. The landlord was always finding fault with me because he was jealous that my girlfriend was somebody that he fancied. There had been tension between us for some time and one time, I overheard him say something spiteful about me before he left the house. I was walking down the stairs and anger was welling up inside me. Part of me wanted to punch the glass in the partitioning doors and I threw my fist at it with no intention of actually making contact. I withdrew my fist at the last second and I only felt a slight breeze on my knuckle but no pressure occured. The glass pane shattered into thousands of tiny pieces. His son tested the remaining pane later by headbutting it (!!?) but he could not break it. My thoughts at the time centered around chi. Maybe we have an energy field that can channel strong emotions and intent or maybe it is something totally non-physical. I have no idea!
(2019-04-01, 10:15 PM)Doug Wrote: Not yet, tim (at least to my knowledge), and he's the parent I most wanted an after death communication from. We'd been partners in a number of memorable gambling ventures, and I'd secretly hoped he'd find something for me to make money from. (My financial health wasn't so great when he died.) I guess I have my sheer arrogance and selfishness to blame for the wall that seems between us now, blocking communication. Doug, you certainly don't seem arrogant to me, or selfish.
05 - Premonition
On a night in late March, 1977, I found myself in a pleasant, contemplative mood after praying for about a half-hour. My mind wandered freely, brushing lightly on familiar things and people, until it settled on the woman I once knew while working at the Money Tree Casino (see 02 - Flood Lamp). Lazily and without emotion, I began to wonder how she was doing in the Netherlands, the land of her birth to which she had returned not two years before. Without warning, I found myself caught up in a growing wave of euphoria as I felt a connection opening between me and one or more heavenly beings. It was only the second time I'd experienced such a joyous connection. While the connection lasted, I was given to know that a major event having to do with the Dutch airline KLM was about to make news. Still in bliss from my encounter, I tried to learn more about the event, whereupon I perceived there would be a tragic accident involving one of their flights. At that, my bliss turned to shock and then great sorrow, as I realized I'd experienced a premonition of an airline disaster. Needless to say, the bliss of the experience ended with that realization, and I spent the next few hours in a funk, wondering where in the world a KLM airline would go down. I breathed a sigh of relief while scanning the newspaper headlines on the following day, finding not a word about the disaster. However, on the day after, the paper carried a bold headline about the KLM disaster on Tenerife in the Canary Islands. With 583 dead, it remains the worst airline disaster in aviation history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster I've never had another such premonition of a public disaster including the loss of lives, and I'm glad for that. I think people who regularly perceive such events must be driven out of their minds at times.
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• tim, Laird, Brian, Obiwan, Stan Woolley, Sciborg_S_Patel, Ninshub, Typoz (2019-04-06, 07:46 AM)Doug Wrote: 05 - Premonition Thanks. That's very interesting. Reading your account, I wondered whether there was any particular association in your mind between the woman you had known and KLM, beyond a common link to the Netherlands. (2019-04-06, 08:14 AM)Chris Wrote: Thanks. That's very interesting. Thanks for your comment, Chris. I can't think of any other possible associations, apart from the common link you mentioned. As far as I knew, my friend had nothing to do with the airline, nor did any of her family members. It simply turned out that for me, she was the common link to the tragedy yet to unfold. (2019-04-03, 11:46 AM)Brian Wrote: I have yet to catch up with all the posts in this thread but your floodlamp experience reminded me of something that happened when I lived in a shared house once. The landlord was always finding fault with me because he was jealous that my girlfriend was somebody that he fancied. There had been tension between us for some time and one time, I overheard him say something spiteful about me before he left the house. I was walking down the stairs and anger was welling up inside me. Part of me wanted to punch the glass in the partitioning doors and I threw my fist at it with no intention of actually making contact. I withdrew my fist at the last second and I only felt a slight breeze on my knuckle but no pressure occured. The glass pane shattered into thousands of tiny pieces. His son tested the remaining pane later by headbutting it (!!?) but he could not break it. My thoughts at the time centered around chi. Maybe we have an energy field that can channel strong emotions and intent or maybe it is something totally non-physical. I have no idea! Wow, another apparent case of intention only to break glass! Your report brings to mind one from a friend in southern California. He had a scrape with the law after smashing the screen from one of the video gambling machines he was playing. He'd already been in a bad mood over one thing or another, and a particular machine he was playing had begun to irritate him badly one day. While getting up to leave the machine, he violently flung his hand out toward the screen as a final gesture of disapproval. Since his fingers hardly made contact with the screen, he was surprised at all the damage they caused. I believe they showed him the video of the incident. After having spent three days in jail, he eagerly signed off on the video as proper evidence and all, but he never accepted the verdict that it was his swipe that broke the glass. (2019-04-02, 02:25 PM)Hurmanetar Wrote: I suppose the mundane explanation might be that your step father was half asleep and called you while partially dreaming and so had no recollection of it later. I've been told I talk in my sleep on occasion and when I was younger I used to sleep walk a lot, so it isn't beyond the realm of possibility he could have called you while half asleep. That doesn't explain the issues with your cell phone not working initially and then the message mysteriously disappearing. Thanks for your suggestion, Hurm. The unfortunate part of the experience was that there was no phone call registered to my cell phone in the minutes before I received the little ringtone indicative of a voicemail message. Moreover, after listening to the alarming message at home (Doug, I can't breathe...), it disappeared from my cell phone call database. I'm afraid these inconsistencies appear to support the idea that my stepfather's "phone call" was created by my own unconscious mind and imprinted directly to my cell phone's circuitry, totally ignoring the usual step of using the phone's technology to deliver a normal phone call. Calum Cooper (Telephone Calls from the Dead) and other collectors of such accounts seem to all agree that such phone calls are rather ephemeral in nature, not to be tripped up by logical processes. |
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