(2024-08-21, 07:35 PM)David001 Wrote: Given the wealth of other information that he presents, I think the time has come to move on.
I think the best way to proceed is to recognise that every phenomenon that implies that consciousness can do things directly (not via its brain) destroys the idea of materialism.
Without materialism, there is absolutely no reason to expect consciousness to die at death, or to be created at birth or some point after conception.
Given that fact, when vast numbers of NDE experiences come back and report what happened after death, we should actually believe them!
David
Well my position is that there's enough evidence + a prior considerations there to have confidence in Survival, but the varied descriptions of what awaits us combined with the way the afterlife - at least the part we first encounter after dying - shapes itself to expectations leaves the exact nature of said afterlife unknown.
But science in general seeks out phenomena that can be replicated. And if we want to move the needle from "Belief in the afterlife is a reasonable position" to "The afterlife is a Scientific Fact" we would need replicable OOBEs at minimum.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'
- Bertrand Russell
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- Bertrand Russell