Even After $100 Billion, Self-Driving Cars Are Going Nowhere

I think the old "skeptics" got frustrated with the bias and hand waving and claiming that things are proven facts when they are not that some of the more extreme proponents keep on doing.  Linda (fls) should be here too.  We do have @sbu  keeping us on our toes but I am playing devils advocate nowadays and finding counter-evidence to the proponents pipe dreams, even though I am a proponent myself (albeit a skeptical one)

Generally across the internet I think you'll find the skeptic movement has lost a lot of activity. My thinking is alliances shifted - see Meyer / Shermer / Kastrup being colleagues/friends - due to external issues taking precedence but also...

The skeptics lost. Hard Problem unsolved to the point Idealism & Panpsychism have made comebacks, questions of ID/Fine-Tuning/Simulation mainstreamed, UFO disclosures, atheism globally on decline. Heck even witchcraft seems to be on the rise, and shows involving paranormal research are often popular though sometimes beyond even my tolerance for speculation...

Also I don't really see the need for much pseudo-skeptical input. I myself don't think the US gov't has retrieved alien spacecraft & I am still somewhat on the fence regarding Intelligent Design but these debates are at least more interesting than the question of whether there's any Survival or Psi. While these may not be settled topics I'd rather discuss the implications/possibilities of their reality.

Maybe that's a personal preference, but I feel like this board is one of the few places you can actually have those kinds of discussions without having to accept any particular ideology/religion/viewpoint. I recall trying to talk on a dedicated Tom Campbell forum and it was an exercise in frustration...