(2021-07-07, 03:36 PM)stephenw Wrote: I am here, with a somewhat contrary set of opinions. The word evolution - means changing from one state to another. The term: spiritual evolution, and the process maps that address it, are fine territory for research and documentation. NDE's might not have a direct reflection of bio-evolution, but can be be modeled as a change of character and inner outlook. The inner character of living things has structure and these structures can evolve. NDE's may be explainable in terms of effective spiritual evolution, that has developed by minds over billions of years.
My feeling that our opponents are giving ground is consistently being reinforced, by what is researched.
https://www.slashgear.com/study-finds-my...-29582302/
This kind of documented research is just what Psi needs!!!!!!!
From the linked article
Here are two research studies that say: NDE's happen all the time, in all cultures and throughout history. Even if the materialists are having their say, the primary facts are being admitted.
It will be like this, until a process map for Psi and NDE's is conceptualized.
I agree, but unfortunately the kind of evolution being assumed by the materialist neurologists in the study I posted about is the prevailing (though now thoroughly debunked) New Synthesis Darwinism with a few bells and whistles, which is really the essence of reductionist materialism.
The study you posted about in the European journal is indeed extremely promising for open minded research on NDEs and the paranormal in general. I think it is telling that it was published in a European journal - it probably couldn't have been published in an American or British journal. Or at least without a bunch of gratuitous disclaimers that of course these experiences are hallucinatory in some sense. As Sci pointed out, it is non-Western countries and even to a lesser extent Europe as opposed to the USA and UK that are seeming to become more open to the paranormal and to research into the paranormal, rather than dismissing it out of hand on scientistic ideological grounds.
Interestingly enough, the lead researcher of this this study you posted about (Dr. Daniel Kondziella), which researched the prevalence and description of extraordinary NDE experiences in the population, was the same neurologist who led up the study I posted about, proposing the rather preposterous "evolution of feigning death leads to NDEs" hypothesis. He seems to be a rather busy bee in this area.