Mega-thread for help with rebuttals against skeptical talking points

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(2020-08-08, 11:01 AM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: My first thought is this relates to the argument, as per Aquinas, that intellect in its apprehension works through imagination but is apart from it.

We might learn about graphs (as in Graph Theory) and geometric shapes with the aid of visuals, but the proofs can be done even for shapes that would beggar the imagination.

For myself, I think there is something important about how the intellect can apprehend the Univerals of Logic and Math, and is determinate in a way physical things are not. For example "8" can stand for a number or a mask or even another numerical value, but the concept of the number in my thought is only of the particular value and nothing else.

Not sure I'm seeing the connection to NDEs/OOBEs, at least not directly. I do think that the intellect, if immaterial, could be eternal in the way the Universals are. So this would be a case where philosophy and scientific investigation can buttress the case for the Survival Hypothesis. I guess such an intellect might always need to be clothed in form, whether a body of flesh or soul stuff?

I think the implication of this case that there are specialized areas of the brain that interpret visual shapes as numbers and vice versa (and presumably something similar for letters), might go a little ways toward explaining the extreme difficulty some formerly living discarnates have seemed to have in clearly communicating through mediums. These discarnates have given the impression of slowly getting better at it as the communications progressed, as if they as soul minds were going through a learning process. 

This would be an information processing function that in physical humans appears to have been implemented in neural structures rather than in the soul mind. For instance having great difficulty getting names right (this depends on spelling, being able to associate certain sounds with certain letter sequences), accurately describing events in correctly spelled and enunciated words, etc. The discarnate human entity, not having these brain structures, perhaps would be expected to have a lot of trouble getting spelling right (knowing kind of how the name sounds but not being able to visualize the letters), etc. Of course this would be complicated by having to work mostly through the medium's subconscious and being somewhat limited by the medium's preexisting knowledge base.
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