(2018-05-18, 04:44 PM)stephenw Wrote: And the "out of the box" idea - I am selling - is that the RNA/DNA/Ribosome laden environment is more than just chemical objects. It is filled with probable information objects that can be generated, objects whose structure absorb meaning from the environment.
A bootstrap program is an excellent example of a formal information object. It works as a signal source that doesn't physical cause something as a flow of electricity - but functions in an informational environment where a larger meaning system can receive its stimulus and evoke a response that is appropriate.
That was a long way around to say -- that it not the independent chemical magical property of RNA -- it is just coded for the right message to trigger a response in the informational environment of a species. The RNA doesn't have a memory - it enables the meaning of the memory to be extracted form a meaning-laden environment.
I'm sorry but, at least for me, you'll have to stray from the abstract a while and get to specifics.
A bootstrap process in a computer is another program - like any other - hard coded to a ROM chip rather than stored in volatile RAM. The point I was making about instinct or inherited behaviours and abilities is that when people talk about it being "hard wired" or "programmed" into our DNA they are just shifting the mystery. Programmed how? Stored how? How do you program instructions to walk into genes which code for fabricating proteins? Yet we know that many animals can walk shortly after birth. In your theory, where exactly in the meaning-laden environment is the instruction set for an animal to do any one of the myriad of things it needs to do from the moment of birth in order not to die in an instant? Some of those things are so incredibly complex that robotics engineers still have not been able to design convincing simulations.
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
Freeman Dyson
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