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A short interview with Parnia again, as the 'go to' authoritative source on NDE's, along with a longer section on Nancy Rhymes experience. Parnia must have at least half of the 1000 recruits into his study by now so one would think he must have an idea where this is going now. 

https://www.today.com/video/doctor-descr...48?v=raila 
 
https://www.today.com/video/-i-m-at-peac...59?v=raila
No doubt in my mind that he appears to think that the evidence points to a separation of mind and brain. 
Thanks for posting this Tim, I saw it yesterday on Facebook but couldn’t wrestle it away from the site to post it elsewhere.  Thumbs Up
(2018-08-18, 01:09 PM)Stan Woolley Wrote: [ -> ]No doubt in my mind that he appears to think that the evidence points to a separation of mind and brain. 
Thanks for posting this Tim, I saw it yesterday on Facebook but couldn’t wrestle it away from the site to post it elsewhere.  Thumbs Up

Thanks Stan, I agree. Did you see the report from anaesthesiologist Chris Yerington's patient, Frank ?  I think Parnia would have been very interested to see that. It's certainly as good as a double blind hit (in theory that is)
(2018-08-18, 12:38 PM)tim Wrote: [ -> ]A short interview with Parnia again, as the 'go to' authoritative source on NDE's, along with a longer section on Nancy Rhymes experience. Parnia must have at least half of the 1000 recruits into his study by now so one would think he must have an idea where this is going now. 

https://www.today.com/video/doctor-descr...48?v=raila 
 
https://www.today.com/video/-i-m-at-peac...59?v=raila

I think this is another segment of the same interview:

Woman On ‘Crossing Over’ During Cardiac Arrest: I’m No Longer Afraid Of Death | Megyn Kelly TODAY

Cherie Aimee's experience; includes brief comment from Sam Parnia.
(2018-08-18, 03:40 PM)Typoz Wrote: [ -> ]I think this is another segment of the same interview:

Woman On ‘Crossing Over’ During Cardiac Arrest: I’m No Longer Afraid Of Death | Megyn Kelly TODAY

Cherie Aimee's experience; includes brief comment from Sam Parnia.

Thanks, Typoz, that was really interesting!  I've read about her somewhere before, a couple of years ago maybe. What she's relating there about making the same mistakes really resonates with me. And yet it's so difficult to actually do, if you get my drift. 

EDIT Yes I remember now. She's well publicised (maybe a bit too well for some people as regards financial reward etc) but I say good luck to her after surviving all that.
Here is her experience on NDERF (for anyone who hasn't seen it) 

http://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1cherie_b_nde.html
Parnia seems to be exuding more confidence in this last interview, will it have hits?
(2018-09-23, 07:23 PM)Fern Wrote: [ -> ]Paria seems to be exuding more confidence in this last interview, will it have hits?

Paria(h) ? Yes, for some of the members here, Fern he certainly would be considered that. Wink

Do you mean, has he had any hits ? We won't know until at least 2020 but he will get them sooner or later, of that I'm confident.
This update on Aware 2 was posted by someone called Samwise (According to Ben Williams) on his blog, Aware of Aware. I haven't had time to go through it but I'm sure it won't reveal if any "hits" have been garnered. He's already told us that no results will/can be published until after the study closes in 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...uR_a98Vi2Q

https://awareofaware.co/welcome/blog/
Well that's an eye opener !! It's quite clear that the vast majority of patients die (we knew that of course) but also even the patients that the Aware team were able to get to with their equipment=meaning "recruited" (ie attended whist in cardiac arrest ?)  > 54% of those died leaving 171 patients. And then 78% of those died leaving only thirty eight to discharge and potential interview.

I wonder if any of the 133 final in hospital deaths after return of heartbeat were able to recount any experience or if there was anyone to make a note ? Seems unlikely. So as of March 2018, they had 38 potential patients to interview. 

10-20-30 % of which will have had an NDE. Lets say 7-8 patients  with NDE. Then 10% of those with an OBE...ahem... that's not even one.

On the positive side, the protocols/methodology are tight and far reaching with the brain oxygen measurer, ear phones to determine from what position the patient is hearing from and even a portable EEG to cover the brain activity.

Finally, they have now (apparently) doubled the number of sites which is very positive indeed. Realistically, we can all now easily see just how incredibly difficult it is to carry out a study like this one and it's going to take many years before they have enough data to even take it to the next level which will (need to be?) be ten times (possibly) the size of this study.
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