2017-12-17, 02:39 PM
(2017-12-17, 01:27 AM)Kamarling Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if Parnia has seen the article. I'm sure he would not appreciate being misquoted.
Here is the quote : I think it speaks for itself really; poorly expressed/bad grammar.
However, Dr Parnia says there are scientific explanations for these reaction, and says seeing people is not evidence of the afterlife, but more likely the brain just scanning itself as a survival technique.
(He said thanks to modern technology and science "death does not have to be limited to philosophy and religion, but it can be explored through science")
Nevertheless, many readers of that newspaper for whom the concept of life after death or a continuation of consciousness, is anathema, will take great comfort from it. And I rarely if ever see any of the impressive cases correctly reported.
Parnia's Mr A for instance is almost universally bastardised, in that he (Mr A) apparently now only heard "a bleep" and not the automated words "shock the patient." And as any self respecting sceptic worth his salt knows....there's nothing special about hearing a bleep in hospital, is there. Nor seeing a bald headed man in blue scrubs that you didn't know was there. So even though the guy was dead, and his ears couldn't have been working (and he was also behind a curtain) that's not very impressive.
Reading the comments sections of these articles is usually even more depressing. The comments tend to run along the lines of....Bullshit !...how can there be life after death, when you're dead you're dead ! Stands to reason and anyway these people didn't really die !
...or...the brain can function for ten minutes after the heart stops, it's been proven by rats.
And then there's usually someone who claims to have been dead (maybe several times just to let us know that he/she is a bona-fide expert) and they didn't experience anything.
I've even seen "oxygen deprivation" making a comeback.
And then you get the inevitable "Don't listen to false prophets (people who report NDEs) The Bible says .......... "
Hardly anyone seems to be aware that where we are currently (scientifically) is that... in the first stage of death, after the heart and respiration has stopped and all brain function has ceased, that thing that makes us into who we are, our mind, our self, our psyche, our soul, call whatever you like, doesn't seem to be annihilated at least in the first few minutes after death.