Why are we here?

So I've been reading a lot of different material about survival, life after death, etc. I guess I am at a point where I can say I believe in LAD in very much the same way I believe that Australia is a place that exists. I guess I won't know until I go there, but I have no reason to believe that it doesn't exist...

However, reading channeled communications and NDEs, I don't get why are we here? Why are we incarnated? If there are "spheres" or "planes" where we have a body that is not subjected to pain, to decay, etc. Where our mind creates reality.. then why all of this? Why wouldn't we commit suicide to facilitate the transition? (I am not contemplating suicide, I am not suicidal, just need to make that clear) While the idea of life after death is much more reassuring than anihilation, I'm not sure that it is that different in terms of the value and meaning of life.. It seems that this is a poor copy of a better life.. I'm just struggling to understand, in the light of all this material, why are we here? What is the meaning and value of this life in light of everything else?

The only thing I can think of is that somehow matter, the material or physical plane, is needed to "produce" minds, souls, individuality in consciousness. Simple  forms of consciousness incarnate in progressively more complex forms until the develop individuality, and I guess that when consciousness goes through the process of being incarnated as a human being then it is able to persist as an individuated self within consciousness.

I don't know what that means for people with dementia, mental illnesses that compromise the self, or blind, deaf, etc, people. I guess that if some NDErs acquire sight in their NDEs it points to something else, but I've never known how reliable those NDEs are.

So I've been reading a lot of different material about survival, life after death, etc. I guess I am at a point where I can say I believe in LAD in very much the same way I believe that Australia is a place that exists. I guess I won't know until I go there, but I have no reason to believe that it doesn't exist...

However, reading channeled communications and NDEs, I don't get why are we here? Why are we incarnated? If there are "spheres" or "planes" where we have a body that is not subjected to pain, to decay, etc. Where our mind creates reality.. then why all of this? Why wouldn't we commit suicide to facilitate the transition? (I am not contemplating suicide, I am not suicidal, just need to make that clear) While the idea of life after death is much more reassuring than anihilation, I'm not sure that it is that different in terms of the value and meaning of life.. It seems that this is a poor copy of a better life.. I'm just struggling to understand, in the light of all this material, why are we here? What is the meaning and value of this life in light of everything else?

I'm not certain there's a good answer to your question. With that in mind, I humbly submit, what is termed the long veiw. What better way to thresh out eternity. Than this odd little social experiment. That seems to defy all odds and keep on keeping on?

However, reading channeled communications and NDEs, I don't get why are we here?

From what I've found through considering many, many NDE accounts, there may be two answers. What we might call the big answer and the little answer. The little answer, as I would term it, is why we are here in this present life, right here, right now. The big answer, relates to what else there is, apart from this planet, and this life. Where do we fit into that bigger picture? That one is harder to contemplate.

The only thing I can think of is that somehow matter, the material or physical plane, is needed to "produce" minds, souls, individuality in consciousness. Simple  forms of consciousness incarnate in progressively more complex forms until the develop individuality, and I guess that when consciousness goes through the process of being incarnated as a human being then it is able to persist as an individuated self within consciousness.

I don't know what that means for people with dementia, mental illnesses that compromise the self, or blind, deaf, etc, people. I guess that if some NDErs acquire sight in their NDEs it points to something else, but I've never known how reliable those NDEs are.

Hi xxii 

I think that answers will come when they will...I have spent the last nearly eight years asking questions like this. I will say this...It’s been my experience to have gone from the relative highs of having a respected, probably too respected, job earning a six figure salary to a physically (and some mental) disabled old git, well, at 58 I’m not that old! I had a stroke.

It may seem to some that having such bad luck must bring with it relative misery. In my case that’s not the case. Of course it’s a pain in the arse moving constantly in a syrup like world, having to fight panic attacks and a number of other new things that suddenly appear, but seeing such difficulties as questions that the universe is asking of me - and answering such questions by thumping them into the goal or batting them for six is a challenge that I aspire to. We have choices to make, seeing every challenge as a choice helps me on my journey.

I haven’t changed that much from the being I was before the stroke, but I now consider it to have been a blessing, as it has allowed me to learn so much that otherwise I think would have remained hidden. I wouldn’t be so bold as to suggest that my experience has been as difficult as many others that suffer the difficulties of life, I’m very grateful for what I have, and what I don’t have. We deal with the cards we’re dealt. Who knows why some get a handful of winning cards, others consistently seem to get losing hands.

I reckon there is purpose to all of it. And if there is not, I will have tried to live my life as the best person I could be. If the stroke has taught me anything, I think it’s that life is about trying our best to make loving choices, about others as well as ourselves.

So I've been reading a lot of different material about survival, life after death, etc. I guess I am at a point where I can say I believe in LAD in very much the same way I believe that Australia is a place that exists. I guess I won't know until I go there, but I have no reason to believe that it doesn't exist...

However, reading channeled communications and NDEs, I don't get why are we here? Why are we incarnated? If there are "spheres" or "planes" where we have a body that is not subjected to pain, to decay, etc. Where our mind creates reality.. then why all of this? Why wouldn't we commit suicide to facilitate the transition? (I am not contemplating suicide, I am not suicidal, just need to make that clear) While the idea of life after death is much more reassuring than anihilation, I'm not sure that it is that different in terms of the value and meaning of life.. It seems that this is a poor copy of a better life.. I'm just struggling to understand, in the light of all this material, why are we here? What is the meaning and value of this life in light of everything else?

Take your pick:

1. Regardless of how and why you got here, you shouldn't be reasonably held accountable for what you can't know or don't remember, so you decide what your purpose is right here right now... set your own goals and fulfill them.
   
2. The version of you that existed before you incarnated decided this would be a good idea - either to learn something or help someone with something or this was your idea of a good time.
   
3. You exist within a hierarchy of beings and someone higher up the food-chain decided you ought to go through this for their own reasons which may or not be in your best interests.
   
4. You are simultaneously the little individuated you AND the comprehensive totality of being - so you ARE the top of that hierarchy on some level, and what can the Ultimate Being do that is interesting? Forget parts of itself to have a new (or re-newed) and interesting experience. So you are here because you got bored being God.
   
5. You are an AI program created by beings (possibly AI's themselves) in the next layer of reality above this one. You are one iteration among trillions of a program which is developing a neural network which will improve the simulation... and it could be Russian Nesting Simulations all the way down. (This is just a combination of 2/3/4 with a tech spin on it)
   

xxii, it is good to ask these questions. Being open to alternative answers is important because it really comes down to how you want to live with the information

 

I use the model that a person is an immortal personality entangled with an avatar. In this model, personality existed before a lifetime and continues to exist after. In popular usage, Survival means continuation of life after bodily death, but I think a better way to describe survival is transition out of this lifetime and into a new venue for experience. That seems to be what we experience and sidesteps the connotations of “death.”

 

As a co-director of a survival-studies organization, I had a lot of contact with people grieving the loss of a loved one. They represent a large portion of people seeing mental mediums. A good example is how Martha Copeland dealt with her grief. See I'm Still Here. Such grief also inspired the Forever Family Foundation.
 
From attempting to help grieving people, the lessons for me have been that I am not much of a people person and that grief is our avatar’s response to the fear of dying. Since ours is a transcommunication organization, one of the ways I attempted to help was to advise people to learn to record for Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP). (See ATransC White Paper on Transcommunication) My advice was for them to learn through EVP, meditation, even contemplation to communicate with the loved one on the other side. Having others do so for them always leaves them wondering.
 
I explained that there are no guaranties they will reach a specific person with EVP. But there is a good chance they will find someone interested in talking. Doing so for themselves might assure them that their loved one is okay, and that when the time comes, they too will be okay.
 
While alleviating the fear of death (part of grief evolves out of fear of death the unknown) is one practical benefit of accepting the evidence that we survive, the more affirmative use, I think, is the accompanying realization that we—here and now—have an opportunity to manage our transition experience.
 
To keep this short, I recommend interested people take a look at Conditional Free Will. It includes an overview of a useful cosmology. Immortal Self-Centric Perspective includes a discussion of what I intend when I say that the Mindful Way is all about moving our sense of self from a body-centric one to a more appropriate immortal self-centric perspective.
 
The idea is that accepting the fact of survival is not as important as is what we do with the information. Most do nothing with the information except talk about it, perhaps marvel at the idea. Few contemplate the implications or seek to realize the possibilities.

Personally I don't think it's possible for there to be any externally defined reason or purpose to any of this, sure maybe there's mechanics that underly it, but beyond that it's just empty. I think people should stop looking for reasons and start making them.

As far as my past life stuff in concerned the only constant that's ever existed is power. Power was happiness because power was choice. There were very few,  if any, exceptions to this. All unhappiness was caused by lack of power, either to prevent something from happening or to make something happen.

My path has always been founded on a complete hatred and rejection of "reality". I won't accept that "some people get good cards and others get bad ones and that's how it is" and I won't try to make any excuses or look for any meanings for it. I cut to the heart and just admit that I don't like it and then fight to change it. That's always been my reason to exist. No one gave it to me, no one could. Eventually finding other people who thought like that too. I'd rather everyone have the opportunity to have whatever hand of cards they want, no one should be forced to be at the whims of anyone or anything else.

Personally I don't think it's possible for there to be any externally defined reason or purpose to any of this, sure maybe there's mechanics that underly it, but beyond that it's just empty. I think people should stop looking for reasons and start making them.

As far as my past life stuff in concerned the only constant that's ever existed is power. Power was happiness because power was choice. There were very few,  if any, exceptions to this. All unhappiness was caused by lack of power, either to prevent something from happening or to make something happen.

My path has always been founded on a complete hatred and rejection of "reality". I won't accept that "some people get good cards and others get bad ones and that's how it is" and I won't try to make any excuses or look for any meanings for it. I cut to the heart and just admit that I don't like it and then fight to change it. That's always been my reason to exist. No one gave it to me, no one could. Eventually finding other people who thought like that too. I'd rather everyone have the opportunity to have whatever hand of cards they want, no one should be forced to be at the whims of anyone or anything else.

Can you possibly work on your past life memories and move to between lives? That way maybe you can  help prove or disprove the idea that we plan our own lives.

It’s one theory that I feel may be a possibility. I think it is hinted at by a few NDErs like Natalie Sudman and others that I can’t remember offhand.

Can you possibly work on your past life memories and move to between lives? That way maybe you can  help prove or disprove the idea that we plan our own lives.

Do you mean continue writing them for posting on PQ?

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If so the answer is yes.

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As far as the memories go the idea of choosing your own life, in general, doesn't seem to happen. But the caveat is that it depends where you are. The memories indicate a huge amount of interdimensional travel in the later parts and some of these places had their own local rules. As in people in the local planes that had various setups of their own. Some were isolationist or non interventionist and would set up barriers between the planes to prevent interaction, some created portals that allowed physical movement though, or naturally occurring tears would exist from the planes overlapping in parts. The levels and types of interaction varied wildly as did the people who set it up. Some of them were groups formed from dead people, some were people who'd never incarnated in the first place, some were a mix, etc. Motives varied just the same.

A lot of "one shot incarnations" that are essentially choosing to forget and incarnate in one place just one time. Even in those cases, at least in our case, there wasn't a lot in the way of choice beyond just going down at all. Typically people would seemingly attach to bodies that they were "most compatible" with. I used to think it was just the body itself, like if someone is typically female they'd usually incarnate as a female, but it seemed like there were a lot of common events that seemed to happen over and over to people that in hindsight really makes me wonder if that compatibility was the entire timespace or something. Case and point, the person I call yellow would often incarnate into an obscenely wealthy family, despite such families being statistically rare. And furthermore she would often have the same types of family stresses. The same could be said for me and everyone else, we'd all seemingly have our common themes. But hers stood out the most when I looked back over this stuff.

I'm going to assume that everything that wasn't a one shot incarnation would get classed as an inbetween life memory to people here, because I've noticed a few interesting similarities with certain aspect of NDE and OBE reports that sound a lot like the general place we all lived. Namely that everyone looked like they were all in their early 20's and everything was pretty bright and vibrant, that sort of stuff. Even though as far as I was concerned that place was just as physical as here and everywhere else. Capable of going from there to a place like this without incarnation and without losing any of your ability. That last part was often what prompted various people or groups to do things to seal off one plane from another for various reasons across the moral spectrum. Especially if one of those planes largely didn't have magic users. Y'know... like here.

I have no idea if there's an actual system in place here to allow people to choose how they incarnate to some degree although I wouldn't doubt it. But I also don't think it's used by literally everyone in the world. My memories indicate I incarnated basically because of impulse and having an argument with someone, and for various reasons Dreamsoap was dragged down here with me. Something everyone agrees was a mistake. But even if that's true, we wouldn't've used any "official" system or channel to incarnate, we did it ourselves like every other one shot.

All in all it's not something I think can be very easily proven or disproven whether I add my bits or not.