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One person named Ben Hurley who was involved in the ABC reporting as you stated has said disparaging things about Falun Dafa. But what about the millions of people who have benefited from this practice both physically and mentally?:

By April 2001, Li Hongzhi had received over 340 awards and proclamations from Australia, Canada, China (before crackdown), Japan, Russia, and the U.S. in recognition of the contributions to people's spiritual and physical health, and to freedom of belief in the world.[33] These include certificates of recognition from several governmental bodies in the United States—including Honorary Citizenship awarded by The State of Georgia and city of Atlanta.[34] On 14 March 2001, The Freedom House bestowed Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong with an International Religious Freedom Award for the advancement of religious and spiritual freedom at a ceremony in the United States Senate.[35] He was nominated for the 2001 Sakharov Prize by over 25 members of European Parliament,[36] was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 and 2001.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Hongzhi#Life_abroad


Millions people have embraced this powerful and righteous QiGong system and it has won awards for uplifting peoples spiritual and mental states the world over:

Since its public introduction in May 1992, Falun Dafa has attracted over 100 million practitioners worldwide in just fourteen years. Falun Dafa cultivation emphasizes that one should conduct oneself according to the principle of "Truth-Compassion-Tolerance". Regardless of gender and age, regardless of nationality and race, every practitioner who persistently cultivates his/her heart and practices the exercises has benefited tremendously. Constant diligent cultivation has brought significant changes to many practitioners in both physical conditions and moral values. At the same time, Falun Dafa is gaining worldwide understanding and appreciation, especially in Asia, Australia, Europe, and North America.

 https://en.minghui.org/emh/special_colum...ition.html


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Australian MPs condemned the CCP’s Persecution of Falun Gong and the defamatory and slanderous reporting of the ABC:

Mr. Limbrick is a parliamentarian in the state of Victoria, who always speaks up for Falun Gong and on China’s human rights issues.


In July this year, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) broadcasted a program that grossly misrepresented Falun Gong. The Falun Dafa Association of Australia had contacted the ABC and questioned the content of the program before it went on air, and warned that such a program would exacerbate the persecution in communist China. Their concerns received no response from the ABC.

After the program was aired, Mr. Limbrick wrote an open letter to complain to ABC’s board of directors and expressed his views through other media outlets. He also wrote an appeal to the Australian Communications and Media Authority.

On November 11, during a speech at the Victorian Legislative Council, Limbrick described the ABC’s misrepresentation of Falun Gong as a “shameful” export of the CCP propaganda and said that it “repeated a number of Chinese Communist Party talking points.”

“If this program had referred to nearly any other religious minority in Australia, the producers would have been accused of hate crimes,” Limbrick said.

“I know many Falun Gong practitioners through my role as an MP,” he said, “They’re a peaceful group of people who courageously stand up against persecution from the Chinese Communist Party to practice their beliefs.”

“Falun Gong practitioners are all good people and very kind,” he said. “There are few governments in the world like the CCP that vilely persecute human rights.”

He was vilified by the CCP because of his open support for Falun Gong. “In fact, they (the CCP) created a web page about me and began to criticize me directly because I dared to defend freedom of religion,” Limbrick said during his speech when discussing a motion on trade with China in the Victorian State Parliament.

source: https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/202...88708.html





Victorian Legislative Council Member Bernie Finn congratulated Limbrick “on his contribution” and expressed his own support for Falun Gong:

“I too have had a great deal to do with Falun Gong practitioners and their associated supporters over a number of years, and they are good people,” Finn said. “They are very good people. They do not deserve the persecution and they do not deserve the treatment that they have received from the barbarians in Beijing, and that is the flat-out truth.”

“I would say most certainly – there are very few governments in the world that are more involved in the violation of human rights than the Chinese communist government,” he continued.

source: https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/202...88708.html



Think about this, the CCP government is brutally torturing, murdering and live organ harvesting thousands of Falun Dafa practitioners who only want to adhere to the tenets of Truthfulness, Compassion and Forebearance and the ABC barely mention it in the report. In fact the evil CCP regime is actually using the ABC report as a propaganda tool in China now:


https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijings-g...31913.html


Ben Hurley also lied in many of his statements.




Ben Hurley:

Falun Gong is a much more secretive and controlling organisation than many people realise, it’s not a transparent group. While most of the core teachings are accessible for free on the websites, there are secret teachings and directives that are passed down verbally, and the discussions and forums that were once open to the public are now tightly controlled.

Absolutely false. There is not 'secret' teachings passed down verbally and nothing is 'tightly controlled'. All the books and videos are free to download from the main website with the core being Zhuan Falun which has been translated into over 40 languages:

www.falundafa.org

Ben Hurely:

social pressures and deep spiritual fears become a strong staying force, in addition to social ties like marriages and children with other devout practitioners. Many, having given so much to Falun Gong, have little ties to society anymore and transitioning back would be a scary prospect. And then there is the shame, which I’ve felt deeply, of acknowledging to your friends and family that this thing you’ve talked up for so long has a darker side that you’ve said nothing about.

Falun Dafa is just a set of Qi Gong exercises and trying to live by the precepts of Truthfulness, Compassion and Forebearance. Many people from all walks of life practice Dafa and they integrate it into their daily life, similar to how people practice Tai Chi exercises in the park or at home. There's no 'transitioning' or 'little ties to society'. I practice it myself and have a normal family and social life.


Ben Hurley:

The way Falun Gong defines itself to the public and to its own followers — as a health-focussed spiritual group concerned about human rights — is just not true. It made me less healthy, less happy, less kind, less compassionate. And it made me less truthful — to myself and others.

It's done the complete opposite for me. It's made me kinder happier and far healthier. I had a serious condition which dealt with my pancreas that I felt would become terminal. I was completely healed from practicing Dafa. Many thousands have been healed from all sorts of ailments and a whole book has been written about Falun Dafa's remarkable healing effects:


https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/200...59184.html

Ben Hurley:

But more than anything I deeply feared that by facing up to what I was seeing and feeling in Falun Gong I would face unimaginable punishment in this life and the afterlife. It was a heavy burden that ate away at me every hour of every day, and I think it can only be understood by others who have held a spiritual belief as deep as mine. The only time I truly felt safe from the consequences of a long list of sins I committed daily by simply going about my life was when I was sitting in meditation or reading Li’s writings. It’s a kind of blood debt Li has carefully cultivated in all of his followers and regularly reminds them of.

What on Earth is this guy talking about? Falun Dafa is just a high level QiGong practice that's totally voluntary. No one 'punishes' you if you don't want to practice it. It's like someone saying they will 'punish' you in the afterlife for not doing Yoga or Tai Chi.

If he only put this much effort into showing the sheer evil of the CCP government. Why does he not do a deep dive on the CCP and how they completely enslave and mistreat all Chinese people (not just Dafa disciples) and how they put Muslim Uyghurs in concentration camps. 

Why is the CCP now using this ABC report so they can further persecute Falun Dafa disciples. Live organ harvesting from people and the ABC turns a blind to that and instead tries to make up stuff to make Falun Dafa look bad, it's so shameful and disgusting. Even the UN know whats going on:

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Page...wsID=27167

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harv...harvesting.


The ABC is just more fake news like most of the lamestream media in the U.S now.

What I don't need is another right-wing, conspiracy peddling, QAnon type lunatic cult on my online doorstep. I think this should stop right here.

I'm not fond of cults either, but I don't understand how exactly a cult can be described as 'right wing' - or left-wing, or centre-left, or any political term.

The bizarre concept that radio waves can interact with DNA, and maybe even transmit its content, actually comes from a physiology Noble Prizewinner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_teleportation

I have never known what to make of such claims.

Is there something sinister about Falun Gong, Kamarling - honest question, I do not know.

I'm not fond of cults either, but I don't understand how exactly a cult can be described as 'right wing' - or left-wing, or centre-left, or any political term.

The bizarre concept that radio waves can interact with DNA, and maybe even transmit its content, actually comes from a physiology Noble Prizewinner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_teleportation

I have never known what to make of such claims.

Is there something sinister about Falun Gong, Kamarling - honest question, I do not know.

To be frank, David, I don't care what you understand or think about my comments or anyone else's. All that I care about where you are concerned is that the unpleasant experience of Skeptiko is not repeated here.

To be frank, David, I don't care what you understand or think about my comments or anyone else's. All that I care about where you are concerned is that the unpleasant experience of Skeptiko is not repeated here.

I agree with you, Skeptiko has turned into a train wreck.

However, all I know about the FG is that it is hated by the CCP.

David

I'm not fond of cults either, but I don't understand how exactly a cult can be described as 'right wing' - or left-wing, or centre-left, or any political term.

The bizarre concept that radio waves can interact with DNA, and maybe even transmit its content, actually comes from a physiology Noble Prizewinner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_teleportation

I have never known what to make of such claims.

Everything is seen through a political lens nowadays.
Read the criticism section.

Everything is seen through a political lens nowadays.
Read the criticism section.

I just did, and they seem remarkably weak. I mean nobody would deny for a moment that, if true, these results were revolutionary. There have been revolutionary results in science before now, but science has become too interested in its status quo.

Remember that this guy has a Nobel Prize. He isn't someone with no pedigree who cooked up an experiment in his kitchen!

Taken too far we arrive at a situation in which revolutionary results are rejected simply because they are revolutionary, and discovery grinds to a halt.

I certainly agree that politics has invaded far too many areas of life right now.

I just did, and they seem remarkably weak. I mean nobody would deny for a moment that, if true, these results were revolutionary. There have been revolutionary results in science before now, but science has become too interested in its status quo.

Remember that this guy has a Nobel Prize. He isn't someone with no pedigree who cooked up an experiment in his kitchen!

Taken too far we arrive at a situation in which revolutionary results are rejected simply because they are revolutionary, and discovery grinds to a halt.

I certainly agree that politics has invaded far too many areas of life right now.

One can be smart and still have crackpot ideas.

One can be smart and still have crackpot ideas.

That observation obviously applies to everyone - including you!

This discussion is going absolutely nowhere.

That observation obviously applies to everyone - including you!

This discussion is going absolutely nowhere.

Not really. I do not give tentative credence to such crackpot ideas.
This part stands out. "[b]DNA teleportation[/b] is a claim that DNA produces electromagnetic signals (EMS), measurable when highly diluted in water.".
The question that comes to mind is how you dilute water? What other chemical is doing the dilution?  Or is he using incorrect terminology? Is he actually saying chemically pure water?
Do you know we have radio telescopes that can receive a signal from the Voyages 1 probe at a wattage of less than 1 attowatt?

Remember that this guy has a Nobel Prize. He isn't someone with no pedigree who cooked up an experiment in his kitchen!

Interesting how this card gets played selectively.  You're usually one to attack such appeals to mainstream credibility and authority.  You know, the whole degradation of science.