Surveying the landscape => A paranormal, religious future?

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Belief in aliens could be America’s next religion

‘American Cosmic’ explores how the once-fringe phenomenon has taken root among the powerful.

Quote:Polling shows that 35 percent of Americans believe that extraterrestrials came to earth in the past, and 26 percent believe that aliens have visited in modern times. This in itself does not necessarily make a new religion. Americans also believe, to varying degrees, in ghosts, Atlantis, and telekinesis. But according to Pasulka, UFO beliefs display other classic indicators of religion: sacred sites, sacred revelations, and testimony by credible witnesses to miraculous events.

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Just 46% of U.K. Christians believe Jesus died, resurrected

A new poll reveals that less than half (46 percent) of the Christians in the United Kingdom believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the world’s sins.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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How millennials replaced religion with astrology and crystals

Jessica Roy

Quote:And no, they don’t particularly care if you think it’s “woo-woo” or weird. Most millennials claim to not take any of it too seriously themselves. They dabble, they find what they like, they take what works for them and leave the rest. Evoking consternation from buttoned-up outsiders is far from a drawback — it’s a fringe benefit.

“I know this work is weird,” Lilia said of her breathwork practice. “But it makes me feel better and that's why I keep doing it.”

The cause behind the spiritual shift is a combination of factors. In more than a dozen interviews for this story with people ranging in age from 18 to their early 40s, a common theme emerged: They were raised with one set of religious beliefs — Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist — but as they became adults, they felt that faith didn’t completely represent who they were or what they believed.

Millennials increasingly identify as “nones” when asked about their religious affiliation, according to a 2017 Pew survey: They are atheist or agnostic, or say they are “spiritual but not religious.”

But yes-or-no survey questions don’t tell the whole story...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


'Waking The Witch' Author Pam Grossman On Why Witches Are Having Such A Huge Cultural Moment

Peg Aloi


Quote:Social media has been a huge driver for this, and it’s obviously crescendoing," Grossman tells me in a phone interview. "For some people, it’s more about the fashion or some other aspect of the culture of witchcraft. But I don’t think that should be trivialized. People are gravitating towards this archetype that represents the female experience in all its complexity, light and dark. More people are also wanting an alternative spiritual experience outside the framework of organized religion, and I think witchcraft provides that."
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


Seeking the essence of consciousness in the human brain


Quote:...says Hameroff, “I believe that consciousness….has been in the universe all along, perhaps from the Big Bang.” From his intense work in anesthesiology and research of near-death experiences, he explains that, when the heart stops beating and blood stops flowing, the microtubules lose their “quantum state,” but the information in the microtubules is not destroyed, it is rather “distributed to the universe at large,” and if the patient is revived, the quantum information can go back into the microtubules of that patient’s brain.

This is where the often-repeated, vivid recollection of revived patients comes from — a near-death experience, a white light or a tunnel, or floating out of their bodies. As Hameroff observes in his so-called Orch-OR theory of consciousness, “It’s quite possible that this quantum information can exist outside of the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.” His research in anesthesiology is widely recognized as proof that anesthesia targets consciousness by way of action on neural microtubules.



Quote:Then consider a compelling observation by a reputable mathematical physicist and author who backs the Hemeroff/Penrose position, Dr. Henry P. Stepp. He actually goes further than they, building upon their compelling theory by submitting that a person’s personality can “exist as a mental entity after death, and if these entities can manage to pull themselves back into the physical world, things like channeling and possession by mediums can actually happen.”

One can’t help but remark that pulling oneself back into the physical world would make sense for some attractive places said to be haunted right here in town, such as a magnificent old home on Main Road where a long-gone sea captain has been seen out and about, or a frequently observed, hovering mist years ago on the staircase of the old Jamesport Manor Inn, or the figures some have noticed at the homestead of the Hallockville Museum Farm on Sound Avenue. But why would any “conscious entity,” trying to “pull back into the physical world,” end up in a 1950s highboy chest of drawers?


Interesting to see these ideas percolating down to a local paper's website...
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Quote:One can’t help but remark that pulling oneself back into the physical world would make sense for some attractive places said to be haunted right here in town, such as a magnificent old home on Main Road where a long-gone sea captain has been seen out and about, or a frequently observed, hovering mist years ago on the staircase of the old Jamesport Manor Inn, or the figures some have noticed at the homestead of the Hallockville Museum Farm on Sound Avenue. But why would any “conscious entity,” trying to “pull back into the physical world,” end up in a 1950s highboy chest of drawers?


This bit is certainly meant to be a throwaway gag, but it does hold an underlying point. Are all (or for that matter, any) of these ‘ghosts’ conscious? If not, what exactly is preventing us from finding a way to “contain” and fully study recurrent “hovering mist” phenomena? We do, after all, know exactly where it’s going to manifest before hand.
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before..."
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(2019-08-02, 06:18 AM)Max_B Wrote: I thought it was hugely inaccurate, and the ending suggested that it was a bit tongue in cheek...

Oh the whole article is a mess, I was just surprised to see a local paper talking about some of the stuff that gets discussed here.
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Another local paper mentioning Orch OR:

Letter: Quantum theory may explain the soul

Chris Curran Dombrowski

Quote:A new quantum theory of consciousness called “Orch OR” — orchestrated objective reduction — states that the recent discovery of quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons gives rise to consciousness. Microtubules (protein polymers) govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes at the quantum level. Scientists believe that the Orch OR theory can account for the afterlife.

One corresponding scientist is Stuart Hameroff, M.D., professor emeritus at the Department of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the director of the Center for Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona. He and Sir Roger Penrose, a mathematical physicist at the Mathematical Institute and University of Oxford, propose that overall brain function derives from quantum level microtubule vibrations. They believe that from a practical medical perspective, treating brain microtubule vibrations could benefit a host of mental and neurological conditions.

Hameroff and Penrose, according to the Huffington Post, state that “the connection to space-time geometry also raises the intriguing possibility that Orch OR allows consciousness apart from the brain and body, distributed and entangled in space-time geometry. It’s possible that the quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.”

Thus it is held that our souls are greater than the interaction of neurons in the brain. They are in fact created from the very fabric of the holoverse and may have been present since the genesis of time.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


A meta question (haven't read the linked-to articles, so can't comment on those): did you mean to post links on Orch-OR in this thread, Sci? Or was that an accident, and had you intended to post them in the dedicated thread?
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(2019-08-05, 11:11 AM)Laird Wrote: A meta question (haven't read the linked-to articles, so can't comment on those): did you mean to post links on Orch-OR in this thread, Sci? Or was that an accident, and had you intended to post them in the dedicated thread?

This thread - largely because they are references to Orch-OR in some local papers. They better serve to see the spread of certain ideas/research in the public sphere than displaying actual accuracy on the work. That first article I posted is, as Max points out, wildly inaccurate.

I figure the dedicated thread is for actual research relating to Orch-OR or at the least quantum mind theories as they relate to microtubules.
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