Surveying the landscape => A paranormal, religious future?

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More Americans Than People in Other Advanced Economies Say COVID-19 Has Strengthened Religious Faith

Nearly three-in-ten U.S. adults say the outbreak has boosted their faith; about four-in-ten say it has tightened family bonds


Quote:The pandemic has led to the cancellation of religious activities and in-person services around the world, but few people say their religious faith has weakened as a result of the outbreak. Across the countries surveyed, a median of just 3% say their own religious faith has decreased, including 4% in the U.S. In South Korea, 9% say their personal faith has become weaker as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, making it the country where people are most likely to hold this view.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


"You bore us. If science is a “commitment to truth” shall we cite all the historical non-truths perpetuated by scientists ? Of course not. It’s not science vs Philosophy ... It’s Science + Philosophy. Elevate your Thinking and Consciousness. When you measure include the measurer."

MC Hammer, https://twitter.com/MCHammer/status/1363908982289559553
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- Bertrand Russell


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The Guardian view on 'post-Christian' Britain: a spiritual enigma


Quote:The majority of us do not belong to any religion. But for most, atheism is not an option either

Quote:During her research, Prof Woodhead devised what she called a “Dawkins indicator”, named in honour of Britain’s most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins. Measuring factors such as hostility to faith schools, she found that though “no religionists” were more socially liberal, only a small minority were militantly secular and less than half considered themselves atheists. The largest bloc was made up of “maybes, doubters, and don’t knows”, plus a group who did believe in God, a higher power or in “something there”. The younger the cohort, the smaller the proportion of atheists.

Quote:A taste for the religious sublime has contributed to a startling 21st-century surge in popularity of early Christian composers such as William Byrd and Palestrina. Pre-Covid, pilgrimages were even back in vogue, to an extent that would have astonished Geoffrey Chaucer.
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We asked Australians if they believe in God or the supernatural. Here's what they said

An Easter 2021 (4 April, AEST) article by Natasha Moore on the ABC News website.

Quote:Surprisingly, perhaps, it was the youngest age group — 18-26-year-olds — who expressed the most openness to the non-material : 49 per cent said they believe in the soul, and 48 per cent in life after death (in both cases, another 28 per cent were open to the possibility).

Quote:The percentage who said "I believe this does not exist" about any of the options never rose to double digits for this cohort (9 per cent for ghosts, only 4 per cent for life after death).

By contrast, the oldest age bracket (76+) were much more sceptical: a full 40 per cent said they do not believe in ghosts, and 28 per cent dismissed the possibility of life after death.

The gender disparities will be less surprising to some. Men were on average more than twice as likely as women to tick the "I believe this does not exist" box.

When it comes to the existence of God or a higher power, men and women said they believed or were open to it at almost the same rate. But for the rest, women were markedly more willing to profess belief: 50 per cent to 38 per cent for the soul, 38 per cent to 30 per cent for life after death, 34 per cent to 26 per cent for angels.
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(2019-08-05, 12:52 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: This thread - largely because they are references to Orch-OR in some local papers. They better serve to see the spread of certain ideas/research in the public sphere than displaying actual accuracy on the work. That first article I posted is, as Max points out, wildly inaccurate.

I figure the dedicated thread is for actual research relating to Orch-OR or at the least quantum mind theories as they relate to microtubules.

Another article about Orch-OR following Penrose being awarded the Nobel in Physics, this one from the Irish Times ->

Can science explain the mystery of consciousness?

Sean Duke

Quote:Nobel physics prize winner Roger Penrose believes the answer lies in quantum mechanics

Quote:“This is a long-term project, which I don’t see resolving for many years,” says Penrose who, given his age, would like to see things moving faster. “I feel pretty sure that we haven’t really understood fully how biological systems are organised and how they may be taking advantage of the subtle effects of [quantum] physics.”

The big difficulty with trying to measure quantum processes in the brain, Penrose points out, is that such effects are destroyed when they are observed or brought into contact with the outside world. “It is going to be very hard to have direct access to consciousness, as to observe it, currently, would be to destroy it.”
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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(2021-04-11, 11:24 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Another article about Orch-OR following Penrose being awarded the Nobel in Physics, this one from the Irish Times ->

Quote:The big difficulty with trying to measure quantum processes in the brain, Penrose points out, is that such effects are destroyed when they are observed or brought into contact with the outside world. “It is going to be very hard to have direct access to consciousness, as to observe it, currently, would be to destroy it.

There's something curious about saying it is "very hard to have direct access to consciousness" - when in fact it is the ONLY thing to which we have direct access. Wink

Though perhaps mystical or spiritual traditions describe self-observation, somehow observing without changing anything.
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(2021-04-12, 10:04 AM)Typoz Wrote: There's something curious about saying it is "very hard to have direct access to consciousness" - when in fact it is the ONLY thing to which we have direct access. Wink

Though perhaps mystical or spiritual traditions describe self-observation, somehow observing without changing anything.

It's also a bit weird in that none of the corroborating evidence - especially the 2014 discovery by Bandyopadhyay - are referenced?

I know there are many who want Orch OR to be false, probably b/c it possibly ruins the delusion of uploading your brain and invites the possibility of a soul, and as such articles will conveniently forget to mention these things. But one where Penrose seems to be interviewed directly is doing the same?

Maybe it was a collection of other publications summarized by a bot, or the writer drew on quotes from these to get the quotes?
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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Quote:the irony of neil’s tweet is that by framing science itself as “true” he’s influencing people to be more skeptical of it in a time of unprecedented misinformation. science is an ever refining process to find truth, not a dogma. no matter his intent, this message isn’t helpful

Quote:just sick of neil's games

-Steam Um Twitter Account vs Neil Degrasse Tyson
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- Bertrand Russell


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News from the BBC:
Young more likely to pray than over-55s - survey

Quote:Young people in the UK are twice as likely as older people to pray regularly, a new survey has found.

Some 51% of 18 to 34-year-olds polled by Savanta ComRes said they pray at least once a month, compared with 24% of those aged 55 and over.

It also found 49% of the younger age group attend a place of worship every month, compared with 6% of over-55s.

Quote:Chris Hopkins added that there were "a few theories" as to why young people made up such a large proportion of the religious landscape.

"Firstly, as the demography of the UK changes, minority faiths do tend to have a larger proportion of practising young people, and therefore as the population of these groups increases within the UK, so will the prayer habits of the population at large," he said.

He explained it was important to "factor in the impact the pandemic has had on the ability to engage with one's faith" with virtual prayers and services being held online.
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