New developments on the UAP disclosure battle

And sadly UFOs isn't the only phenomena being discussed here that suffers from public hype.

Sad but true - the Materialist Evangelicals have definitely done this to make money, like that one woman who peddles skeptical talking points while getting $2,000+ per video on Patreon.

Plus we also know Dawkins had that costly cult...

Sad but true - the Materialist Evangelicals have definitely done this to make money, like that one woman who peddles skeptical talking points while getting $2,000+ per video on Patreon.

Plus we also know Dawkins had that costly cult...

Yes the examples are plentiful:

Dr. Eben Alexander has sold more than two million copies of his New York Times best-seller “Proof of Heaven,” a book in which he describes experiences in the afterlife after he slipped into a coma. In an article in the August issue of Esquire, contributing editor Luke Dittrich raises new questions about Alexander’s account.….

https://www.today.com/popculture/proof-h...6c10512930

Yes the examples are plentiful:


https://www.today.com/popculture/proof-h...6c10512930

I agree Alexander is suspicious but the Esquire article was also a biased hit piece rooted in pseudoskepticism.

Notice they didn't do an article on Randi's many immoral actions.

You've hit the nail on the head. Similar to other YouTube personalities, UFO 'influencers' exploit public interest in these phenomena for their own fame, narcissism, and potentially personal income. And sadly UFOs isn't the only phenomena being discussed here that suffers from public hype.

I've been following more of the UFOtwitter stuff and the quality of person is extremely low. 

Any criticism of Lue Elizondo/pro-alien disclosure is met with vile retorts, accusations of henious stuff and doxxing. 

Several personalities within the field seem to be horrible individuals. For me, the case is closed. It's a massive grift, filled with mentally ill persons who have formed around a cult surrounding the subject.

Until hard evidence comes clear, I'm out.

I've been following more of the UFOtwitter stuff and the quality of person is extremely low. 

Any criticism of Lue Elizondo/pro-alien disclosure is met with vile retorts, accusations of henious stuff and doxxing. 

Several personalities within the field seem to be horrible individuals. For me, the case is closed. It's a massive grift, filled with mentally ill persons who have formed around a cult surrounding the subject.

Until hard evidence comes clear, I'm out.

Maybe check out physicist Adam Frank's Little Book of Aliens?

Haven't gotten it yet but looking at Twitter he seems to be separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, by challenging some of the more ridiculous stuff.

[Laird]

Doing some checking for the latest on this situation, I discovered that about a week ago, lawmakers had a closed-door briefing with Thomas Monheim, the inspector general of the intelligence community. Depending on your source, this was, according to those lawmakers, a small but significant and positive step forward, with new information that gives them more confidence in David Grusch, or of mixed utility, with some saying it's like a game of whack-a-mole, and others more positive.

From the second link ("Lawmakers investigating UAPs, or UFOs, remain frustrated after closed-door briefing with government watchdog" by Stefan Becket on January 12, 2024 for CBS News):

Several lawmakers who emerged from the briefing on Capitol Hill said they were frustrated by the lack of new information about Grusch's allegations. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, a Democrat from Illinois, told reporters that lawmakers "haven't gotten the answers that we need."

"Everybody is wondering about the substance of those claims. And until we actually look at those specifically, and try to get answers about those, those claims are just going to be out there," he said. "And so that's what we needed to kind of delve into. And unfortunately, I just wasted time in there not kind of figuring out whether those were true."

Rep. Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the subcommittee, said he "would have loved to receive much more information," but added that "it's reasonable to say that everyone that was in the room received probably new information."

Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida said the meeting was "the first real briefing that we've had, that we've now made, I would say, progress on some of the claims Mr. Grusch has made."

"This is the first time we kind of got a ruling on what the IG thinks of those claims. And so this meeting, unlike the one we had previously when we did this briefing, this one actually moved the needle," Moskowitz said.

[Laird]

Also maybe of interest:

100 of 100 US Senators on UFO whistleblower David Grusch by Matt Laslo on 1 January, 2024, for Ask a Pol: his tally sheet for his interviews as to which of the 100 US senators hold which opinion on David Grusch.

It looks like the anti-UFO/UAP disclosure forces in the DOD and Congress have continued to win the day. The desperate coverup continues. Despite a little impotent "window dressing" in new legislation, no real transparency. The huge question remains : what are they so determinedly protecting? It must be very sensitive and important to motivate such continued efforts to squelch the issue. If the whole UFO retrieval/reverse engineering project issue is all conspiracy theory nonsense generated by paranoid and deluded individuals, then why all the effort?

From a new article in The Black Vault at https://www.theblackvault.com/documentar...e_vignette :

"In June 2023, The Black Vault filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for all records and materials submitted or communicated to the Office of the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) by David Charles Grusch in or around May 2022. David Grusch is known as the UFO Whistleblower, and the request aimed to obtain various forms of correspondence, reports, memos, notes, transcripts, photos, videos, and other documents related to his communications with the ICIG."

Grusch has testified that he disclosed to the ICIG a certain amount of information and a number of names of other whistleblowers some with direct knowledge of UFO retrieval and reverse engineering project(s).

"On January 5, 2024, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) responded to The Black Vault’s request with a “Glomar response,” stating that they could neither confirm nor deny the existence of the requested records."

Black Vault filed an appeal, which was promptly denied.