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(2022-09-20, 07:56 PM)Ninshub Wrote: Sounds like spiritual being=a non-physical being (you without your body) is good for starters!

A portion of consciousness, one might say. I think I prefer the old fashioned soul. It winds up the sceptics more  [Image: biggrin.png]
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(2022-09-20, 06:04 PM)tim Wrote: I hope I haven't posted this video before. I sort of feel like I have, so apologies if that is so. Am I allowed to say, this is how I think "it is" and how it "will be"? Of course, I may be falling prey to my own biases. So, it may not be how it is, at all.  

Near-Death Experience | Josef Streisselberger, Austria (with English Voiceover) - YouTube

All Souls: Josef Streisselberger reports on his near-death experience (tips.at)  (You'll have to use the translate facility to read this short interview) 


"I know now, we can't die, we have a consciousness, that's eternal and we can't talk about a life after death, because in my experience there is no death, there is only a transition to another sphere, to another dimension, to a disembodied consciousness – you could say there is a life after physical life."

"Through a near-death experience, however, one experiences exactly the opposite – that we are not a physical being, but a spiritual being – we have a body but we are not our body, we are mind and consciousness."

Certainly a very powerful NDE, recounted very clearly and in detail by a technical/scientific person used to clear thinking.

One thing that struck me about this was his recounting how he was communicated with by his higher self or soul. The clear implication of this is at least apparently what I have contended for some time, that for several reasons the human self and the soul must be different, separate beings, with the human self presumably temporary in some sense. Here's a first-hand account that seems to confirm this separateness, where both beings simultaneously exist and communicate with each other. This experience of communication came up at about 5:10 or so in the talk.
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Yes indeed.
(2022-09-20, 07:18 PM)tim Wrote: I wish I knew what a spiritual being actually is. Do you know ? If you don't, I'll ask Laird.

Oh, tim, I don't think I have any more authority than you in this respect. We could consult a dictionary, but we'd probably just end up going around in circles with various words mutually referencing one another. My guess is that you only know for sure that to which that phrase refers when you have an experience like that of Josef Striesselberger.
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(2022-09-21, 03:19 AM)Laird Wrote: Oh, tim, I don't think I have any more authority than you in this respect. We could consult a dictionary, but we'd probably just end up going around in circles with various words mutually referencing one another. My guess is that you only know for sure that to which that phrase refers when you have an experience like that of Josef Striesselberger.

Yes you do, Laird, you're a Sheriff round these parts, ain't ya ? If you see one of them goddamn "spritual" beings, you let me know, goddamnit !!  Smile  

But being serious, I agree. When you have the experience you don't need to wonder, you know.
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I was watching this long and rather medically-oriented group presentation when there was this startling account from Dr. Tom Aufderheide. He was mentioned in one of Dr  Sam Parnia's books as Dr Aufderheide had a patient who knew things he should not have known during cardiac arrest.

I've linked to a point about 45 minutes in where Parnia is talking, then it is Tom's turn to speak.
(sound quality is a bit poor, but still very audible)

What Happens When We Die? Surviving Cardiac Arrest
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(2022-11-09, 04:06 PM)Typoz Wrote: I was watching this long and rather medically-oriented group presentation when there was this startling account from Dr. Tom Aufderheide. He was mentioned in one of Dr  Sam Parnia's books as Dr Aufderheide had a patient who knew things he should not have known during cardiac arrest.

I've linked to a point about 45 minutes in where Parnia is talking, then it is Tom's turn to speak.
(sound quality is a bit poor, but still very audible)

What Happens When We Die? Surviving Cardiac Arrest

That's a great experience.
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I'm not sure I haven't already posted this video somewhere already, but apologies if I have. It was made by a Dutch group calling themselves "Deeper meaning".

Ed Gerritsen had a near death experience when another car (without warning) turned into the path of the car he was driving. The real impact (no pun intended) of this can be witnessed in the intensity of his paintings which is the only way he says he can even begin to describe what he experienced. 

 Live Again | The near-death experience of Ed Gerritsen (English subtitles) - YouTube

There is another interesting NDE (impact wise) that preceeded Ed's, that of Catja de Rijk who experienced the journey to the 'light' during a cardiac catheterisation.

Live Again | The near-death experience of Catja de Rijk (English subtitles) - YouTube
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This is the report of a very senior surgeon from Spain, Dr Manuel Sans Segarra, who was on duty at the Bellvitge hospital in Barcelona, when one of the actual hospital staff (coincidentally) was brought in dead (in cardiac arrest) from a very serious car accident. She suffered catastrophic internal injuries and trauma (apparently).

She was eventually resuscitated and her life was saved by his surgical intervention. When she woke up (or some time later) it seems the surgeon who had an interest in NDE's (because some of his trauma patients had reported them) gently enquired if she remembered anything from the time of her arrest (or when she was brought in) 

At first she wouldn't talk about it but then it apparently all came out...she'd seen everything from a position above the trauma/operating room in detail and knew exactly what had occurred. She even tried to talk to the surgeon and attempted to touch him with her hand (whatever a disembodied/spiritual hand is) but it simply passed right through him (of course).

She not only knew what was going on in the room there, when she was dead (flat EEG he says) but she also saw what was going on in adjacent rooms, particularly one where a patient was undergoing an operation on his neck. She saw that (that precise procedure) and reported to the surgeon who then went to check the computor records which proved her right. 

I invite the perenial, always doubting sceptics, to provide an explanation for this case which mirrors many others in the literature. (hint--more than one rock falling from the sky) This is what all the fuss is about and this is why materialism cannot be correct.  

In order to see his comments about the case, set the auto-translate to English. It's not perfect and there's a little bit of drop out on it but you can get the basic details. 

ECMs: INFORMACIÓN PRÁCTICA PARA PERSONAL SANITARIO - YouTube   starts at 3.23
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(2023-03-09, 05:58 PM)tim Wrote: She not only knew what was going on in the room there, when she was dead (flat EEG he says) but she also saw what was going on in adjacent rooms, particularly one where a patient was undergoing an operation on his neck. She saw that (that precise procedure) and reported to the surgeon who then went to check the computor records which proved her right.
 
Hi tim.

The surgeon is not talking about a neck operation, but of a femoral neck operation (on the groin)  Wink
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