Most common dreams across borders

[Laird]

No, she's had them for some time now. I think I may be on the way out, though. Two nights ago I woke up three times during the night and pressed the alarm clock to see what time it was (it has a light on it to illuminate the digital display ). The first two times exactly on my date of birth (last two digits).

Clearly, this was a rebirth experience!

The third at 4.44 (am) which I believe is one of the codes for cardiac arrest....gulp

Meaning: "You think you're going to die soon of cardiac arrest? In your dreams, tim!"

Edit: Come back, I didn't mean to shut the thread down

Hehe. OK. I'll "come back" (although I wasn't here to start with) to share my most frequent dream, except that there's not just one, but two:

The first goes like this: I'm redoing my HSC ("higher school certificate" / matriculation / final two years of high school to prepare for university). I know that I've already done it, but somehow I'm doing it again. I have no idea why, but I'm very concerned that I'm not going to do nearly as well as I did the first time. Sometimes, I experience the exams themselves, at least partially, and at least the maths one.

The second goes like this: I've planned a trip to the USA a year or two in advance, sometimes with other members of my family, but I'm always late to the airport - I've forgotten until the last minute that I've even got a flight booked. Sometimes, I manage to get on the flight, but typically the dream ends before then - with me struggling belatedly to get to the airport in a taxi and dredge up my passport - or at least it ends on the plane before I arrive in the USA. On other, rare, occasions, I actually make the flight and land in LA, and have a little look around the city (sometimes with family) and look forward to my planned road trip around the country in a secondhand car that I plan to purchase, or hitchhiking, or what-have-you, visiting until-then online friends.

Make of those what you will, Freud.

Clearly, this was a rebirth experience!

Not sure what you mean, Laird but not for me. This is an unwanted/unwelcome synchronicity that has been occurring to me over the past few decades. And it's way beyond chance or coincidence.

Meaning: "You think you're going to die soon of cardiac arrest? In your dreams, tim!"

Broadly, yes. I think it's more of a warning, though. 

Hehe. OK. I'll "come back" (although I wasn't here to start with) to share my most frequent dream, except that there's not just one, but two:

I'm glad you did, Laird, that's very interesting and you've jogged my memory because I've had quite similar ones, I believe. I don't know how to interpret them other than they are entirely normal as I'm sure Freud would agree. 

Just on the point about my post that "appeared" to bring the thread to a standstill, I'm sure it didn't, it must have just been a coincidence ...lol

[Laird]

Not sure what you mean, Laird but not for me. This is an unwanted/unwelcome synchronicity that has been occurring to me over the past few decades. And it's way beyond chance or coincidence.

My awkward attempt to lightheartedly put a positive spin on something of concern to you and that you take seriously was probably misplaced. Apologies, tim.

In any case, it sounds a bit like the "11:11" phenomenon. Very curious.

Broadly, yes. I think it's more of a warning, though. 

Ditto the above.

I'm glad you did, Laird, that's very interesting and you've jogged my memory because I've had quite similar ones, I believe. I don't know how to interpret them other than they are entirely normal as I'm sure Freud would agree. 

Yep, they probably are normal, but I also suspect that there's some sort of psychological explanation for their regularity and symbolism. The first type involving repeating matriculation exams perhaps has some reincarnation or life review symbolism to it. The second perhaps has some symbolism of feelings of being unprepared for the journey of life. I don't want to be reductionist about these dreams though - there are presumably elements beyond the strictly symbolic.

I had another dream of the second type last night, except it wasn't a plane trip to the USA, but a campervan trip to Ukraine (in which there was peace, not war) and "Bellarussia" (presumably a dream variation on "Belarus"). Intriguingly, Belarus does actually border on Ukraine (although I knew that already based on news about the current crisis), however, Ukraine clearly does not border on (southern) Australia, which is how we got there (by road) in the dream. Nor, I suspect, does the real-life border crossing from Ukraine to Belarus consist in a "big ferry" which runs on rails and travels over both water and land, as was the case in the dream.

As is typical of this dream type, there was a passport problem due to the last-minute realisation that the long-planned trip was actually happening: I didn't have a passport, and was lucky that they didn't ask for one in Ukraine or Bellarussia. The plan when we realised this lack was to visit the Australian embassy in Bellarussia and have one issued from there (I am not sure whether this is possible in real life), after which we would continue on to other countries which would require a passport for entry.

Something else intriguing about this dream strikes me: the title of this thread includes the idea of borders and crossing them, which is reflected in the dream.

Just on the point about my post that "appeared" to bring the thread to a standstill, I'm sure it didn't, it must have just been a coincidence ...lol

I reckon so!

[Laird]

I had a very interesting dream (a while back) where I was actually speaking fluent Italian (I know I was, because I was so surprised during the dream that I said to myself ...you can't speak Italian and then I immediately woke up.  That's only happened once and I cant speak Italian.

Going back to this earlier post: I find this fascinating, tim. In the dream, did you understand the Italian that you were speaking fluently, or was it simply flowing through you without your comprehension? Were you talking to other Italians in the dream, and if so, did you understand what they were saying too? And did you remember enough of it when you woke up to check that the words/grammar/etc were genuine Italian and not some alternative dream version?

Edit: Come back, I didn't mean to shut the thread down

I don't think you shut anything down. Dreams are one of my main interests - not that I understand them, but they often seem very important to me.

Ordinarily I would comment a lot more in this thread. Right now there are other things taking my time. One of them is folk music, it seems important right now to spend time and be involved in that. It fills a lot of time, practising stuff, trying to get it right, getting out and playing among other people too.

My awkward attempt to lightheartedly put a positive spin on something of concern to you and that you take seriously was probably misplaced. Apologies, tim.

In any case, it sounds a bit like the "11:11" phenomenon. Very curious.


Ditto the above.


Yep, they probably are normal, but I also suspect that there's some sort of psychological explanation for their regularity and symbolism. The first type involving repeating matriculation exams perhaps has some reincarnation or life review symbolism to it. The second perhaps has some symbolism of feelings of being unprepared for the journey of life. I don't want to be reductionist about these dreams though - there are presumably elements beyond the strictly symbolic.

I had another dream of the second type last night, except it wasn't a plane trip to the USA, but a campervan trip to Ukraine (in which there was peace, not war) and "Bellarussia" (presumably a dream variation on "Belarus"). Intriguingly, Belarus does actually border on Ukraine (although I knew that already based on news about the current crisis), however, Ukraine clearly does not border on (southern) Australia, which is how we got there (by road) in the dream. Nor, I suspect, does the real-life border crossing from Ukraine to Belarus consist in a "big ferry" which runs on rails and travels over both water and land, as was the case in the dream.

As is typical of this dream type, there was a passport problem due to the last-minute realisation that the long-planned trip was actually happening: I didn't have a passport, and was lucky that they didn't ask for one in Ukraine or Bellarussia. The plan when we realised this lack was to visit the Australian embassy in Bellarussia and have one issued from there (I am not sure whether this is possible in real life), after which we would continue on to other countries which would require a passport for entry.

Something else intriguing about this dream strikes me: the title of this thread includes the idea of borders and crossing them, which is reflected in the dream.


I reckon so!

Thanks, Laird, and no need to apologise. Those dreams you are reporting there seem to fit in with your meticulous nature ...you like or prefer (or I suspect you do) everything to be well organised and functioning properly and if something's wrong (forgotten your passport) you need a solution and you find it (the Embassy). Many people are like this, are they not.

Going back to this earlier post: I find this fascinating, tim. In the dream, did you understand the Italian that you were speaking fluently, or was it simply flowing through you without your comprehension? Were you talking to other Italians in the dream, and if so, did you understand what they were saying too? And did you remember enough of it when you woke up to check that the words/grammar/etc were genuine Italian and not some alternative dream version?

I was definitely speaking Italian (I know some Italian words and phrases obviously) fluently to one or more persons in some kind of square or courtyard. I was completely fluent and I understood them, who also were speaking back to me. It's hard to know how long this lasted but I suddenly (or the "I" that was above (layers of consciousness? that particular "I" which was also me) thought ...I can't do this, it's impossible (kind of thing) I can't speak Italian...and then I woke up instantly. It's only happened once, once that I can remember, anyway.

It was a very definite event but I can't remember what I was saying. It has no value to anyone else of course but if it wasn't something out of the ordinary, why did I immediately wake up ...boom and remember it. I know it wasn't 'nonsense' I was talking as can occur in dreams, naturally. How do I know it wasn't? If I was speaking nonsense I don't think it I would have been jolted awake by the realisation that I can't speak Italian, if you see what I mean.

I don't think you shut anything down. Dreams are one of my main interests - not that I understand them, but they often seem very important to me.

Ordinarily I would comment a lot more in this thread. Right now there are other things taking my time. One of them is folk music, it seems important right now to spend time and be involved in that. It fills a lot of time, practising stuff, trying to get it right, getting out and playing among other people too.

I didn't know you played folk music, Typoz. Entirely understandable in this terrible situation/period we are currently faced with.

I liked Falling Water and the ideas it explored.

Falling Water?

I didn't know you played folk music, Typoz. Entirely understandable in this terrible situation/period we are currently faced with.

I came near the bottom of my class in music at school. Nevertheless, I've played folk music right from childhood, my whole life really.