How Certain Are You That PSI Effects Are Real?

How Certain Are You That PSI Effects Are Real?

A couple of comments. One, there are different types of phenomena under the heading 'psi'. I'm not able to say anything at all about some of them, I have no knowledge (despite inhabiting places like this forum). Two, I based my vote on how I actually live my real, day-to-day life.

I was afraid that might be difficult to answer, but based on the percentages it wasn't, for me. I couldn't go as high as 99%, but given the evidence for which I don't feel there's a plausible conventional explanation, I couldn't go as low as 50% either.

I chose 50% percent although I'm pretty sure that there's some other way we have of interacting between ourselves and our surroundings, there is too much exaggeration in the literature (both pro and anit-psi) to sift through.

Do you mean any of them or all of them or what?

A couple of comments. One, there are different types of phenomena under the heading 'psi'. I'm not able to say anything at all about some of them, I have no knowledge (despite inhabiting places like this forum). Two, I based my vote on how I actually live my real, day-to-day life.

I agree. From my study, it seems useful to think of psi functioning as a characteristic of life. This is a case in which circular referencing is unavoidable. Psi functioning suggests the existence of a psi field in which the influence of psi is propagated. If this is true, there needs to be a psi field-physical interface.

Psi functioning appears to be a characteristic of perception and expression. As such one can argue that thought and other functions of mind are psi functioning. That would mean that mind and thought are also psi field phenomena.

If these are true then psi functioning is a characteristic of life, mind and thought. I have previously mentioned First Sight Theory by James Carpenter. He wrote a book by that name which includes informative references, a lot of familiar paranormalists and research. (http://www.drjimcarpenter.com/about/docu...dfield.pdf) I have paraphrased the hypothesis in terms of what I refer to as the Implicit Cosmology, but you can ignore the cosmology references. It is at https://ethericstudies.org/perception/.

Other researchers are coming to a similar model. The idea is that we unconsciously pre-process information before becoming aware of the results and that our every expression is accompanied by a psychokinetic influence and our every perception is preceded by psi sensing. 

The extent to which we are consciously aware of this psi functioning is a factor of what I refer to as our lucidity.

An example of everyday psi functioning is the way we tend to sense environmental signals which imply danger before we are consciously aware of them. There is a lot of research indicating that some high-psi functioning people (psychics) are able to sense information that is not available to them by ordinary means. (https://subtle.energy/list-100-peer-revi...phenomena/)

Given the above-described model, the best available explanation for the existence of the visual and audio phenomena I study is psi functioning in the form of intended order. You can probably list a few examples of your own. The bottom line is that we ignore the evidence of psi at the risk of intellectual myopia.

 Example of video-loop visual ITC

and the audio file at 
https://atransc.org/wp-content/uploads/2...hine-1.mp3

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Obi, I assumed "any". I would have gone for 100% certain except that there is always that tiny possibility based in solipsism or something along those lines that even though it's preposterous, we (I) can't logically rule out the possibility that we (I) are (am) all that exists; in that case, the "strange" experiences I have had would be just me messing with myself; or, along similar but not quite solipsistic lines, could just be me "creatively imagining" phenomena that seem to be objectively real, but only because I am projecting them - along with projecting the accompanying "objective proof", like people supposedly "really" saying things that "verify" the phenomena, even though in reality, they said or did something different.

So, instead, I chose 99%. I would have chosen 99.999% if it had been available.

I agree. From my study, it seems useful to think of psi functioning as a characteristic of life. This is a case in which circular referencing is unavoidable. Psi functioning suggests the existence of a psi field in which the influence of psi is propagated. If this is true, there needs to be a psi field-physical interface.

Psi functioning appears to be a characteristic of perception and expression. As such one can argue that thought and other functions of mind are psi functioning. That would mean that mind and thought are also psi field phenomena.

That was well said and I strongly agree.

Propagation in a psi "field" is somewhat hard to defend, as the term field has a precise science set of definitions (as a force field) and associated rules for empirical measurement.  There maybe some relationship in science if one holds that "wave" packets propagate in a field, but the context is one of an abstract math/logic nature.  Sheldrake's morphic field would be another view.

My own humble take would be to simply see the real-world as full of probable outcomes to future events and state that each of these is a real possible event, with infinite interference patterns.  Imagine Feymann's sum over all histories, applied to mental events as well as physical ones.  I would love to hear your take on etheric fields.

The mental function that best describes this model associated with psi events is understanding !  I think science has a good handle on environmental signals reaching the brain (afferent) and signals going out to the body (efferent).

Those signals are integrated in the brain and mind.  However, only mind seems a candidate to link the meanings together in such a way as to generate an understanding of anything.