Discussion about proponent-only ID thread outside ECP

I wanted this thread to be a place people could go to for evidence of intelligent design without having to wade through posts on debate

Is it not good then that evidence is balanced with counter evidence.  What you are describing is an echo chamber of confirmation bias.  How can anybody learn anything real or realistic from such?  To me, it's only the weighing up of evidence against counter evidence that sets this forum aside from any New-age forum on the internet and it is already biased to a near religious degree in favour of psi.  Of course you are entitled to just swallow a mountain of flimsy evidence if you want to, but why would you want to?

Is it not good then that evidence is balanced with counter evidence.  What you are describing is an echo chamber of confirmation bias.  How can anybody learn anything real or realistic from such?  To me, it's only the weighing up of evidence against counter evidence that sets this forum aside from any New-age forum on the internet and it is already biased to a near religious degree in favour of psi.  Of course you are entitled to just swallow a mountain of flimsy evidence if you want to, but why would you want to?

No-one is blocked from sharing counter-evidence, nor from discussing ideas for and against. What is being discussed here (and it is only an experiment) is something to organise information according to someone's preferences.

I do share some of @Max_B's reservations since I tend to just look for "unread posts" and thus not always notice whereabouts I am within the forum.

I can see Jim's point based on the Resources threads we had on Skeptiko. Debates can end up being long back & forth arguments over a single point and there are a few ID debate threads that already exist.

IIRC for Resources someone could quote an article and link to the new thread they made to debate said article. But we're such a small group not sure that's necessary?

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No-one is blocked from sharing counter-evidence, nor from discussing ideas for and against.

Yes. Even in the Evidence Only thread. The idea is that it operates like a thread in the ECP forum. If there is a thread about a mediumship case in the ECP forum and you want to discuss the merits, you can do it - but not if you'e coming at it saying that all mediumship (or mediumship research) is bunk in the first place. If you are participating in an ECP thread, you are taking the attitude (whether personally held or "acted") that the phenomena in general is genuine, but you can still debate whether that particular case is genuine. (And by bringing actual argument, not dismissive comments.) Or you can have other discussions than the "is it genuine or not?" type, which at base is why the ECP forum exists.

(And yes this site is biased towards psi - it's founded by proponents of psi who want to discuss other things than "let's start from the ground up and see if psi is real". The majority here are well beyond that. (@Brian, if you haven't understood this, hopefully this makes it clear.) At the same time, there are corners of this forum that are dedicated to "is psi real or not in the first place".)

Similarly here, you could still bring up counter-evidence to challenge or discuss specific points within "intelligent design". But if you are coming at it in terms of "ID has to be bunk in the first place because materialism and neo-Darwinism are unassailable", you should think of posting in other threads about intelligent design on this forum, of which there are quite a few.

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On the basis of what I've written here, I think I will re-label that thread to make it clear that it doesn't mean no counter-evidence can be produced at all.