Banned from skeptiko.

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Hi,

I've been banned from skeptiko.


If anyone needs to contact me in the future, my e-mail is yol9qjps at gmail dot com.
The first gulp from the glass of science will make you an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you - Werner Heisenberg. (More at my Blog & Website)
(2023-06-21, 10:00 AM)Jim_Smith Wrote: Hi,

I've been banned from skeptiko.


If anyone needs to contact me in the future, my e-mail is yol9qjps at gmail dot com.

Hi Jim, I was effectively banned some time back. I'm not sure whether Michael Larkin was banned or simply gave up. Other, more recent members of the forum, notably Viberaider, were also banned.

What caused you to be banned - the others that I have mentioned were all banned because they wrote in favour of the 'no virus' theory. This got completely distorted by Alex for some reason that escapes me, but to be honest, I think Alex started to go strange a long time back. I don't know how old he is, but maybe he is just losing it.

I do hope you stay here. You have to stay on topic much more than you did on Skeptiko, but provided you want to write about psychic matters there is no problem. The difference from Skeptiko, is that if a subject is banned, the moderators will not continue to push their point of view and slander those they don't agree with while not letting them argue back.

Just keep away from politics!

David
(2023-06-21, 10:19 AM)David001 Wrote: Hi Jim, I was effectively banned some time back. I'm not sure whether Michael Larkin was banned or simply gave up. Other, more recent members of the forum, notably Viberaider, were also banned.

What caused you to be banned - the others that I have mentioned were all banned because they wrote in favour of the 'no virus' theory. This got completely distorted by Alex for some reason that escapes me, but to be honest, I think Alex started to go strange a long time back. I don't know how old he is, but maybe he is just losing it.

I do hope you stay here. You have to stay on topic much more than you did on Skeptiko, but provided you want to write about psychic matters there is no problem. The difference from Skeptiko, is that if a subject is banned, the moderators will not continue to push their point of view and slander those they don't agree with while not letting them argue back.

Just keep away from politics!

David

Hi David,

I suggested a topic for the podcast, he asked me to invite someone. I said (paraphrasing) 'No I'm not interested in the podcast or who you have on. I suggested the topic because I thought it would interest you.'

The post is here, you have to use a browser where you are not logged in to read anything if you are banned.
https://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/j...ost-168277

What is the "no virus" theory?
The first gulp from the glass of science will make you an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you - Werner Heisenberg. (More at my Blog & Website)
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I sometimes take a glance over at Skeptiko, it seems a strange place these days. It isn't clear what Alex is aiming for with it all, though that no longer interests me. As far as I'm aware I still can login over there but have no reason to do so.

It's fair to say this place, PsienceQuest has a less broad scope than over there, but it is what it is. I don't lose sleep over that, I too visit other sites to discuss other topics.
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(2023-06-21, 10:19 AM)David001 Wrote: Hi Jim, I was effectively banned some time back. I'm not sure whether Michael Larkin was banned or simply gave up. Other, more recent members of the forum, notably Viberaider, were also banned.

What caused you to be banned - the others that I have mentioned were all banned because they wrote in favour of the 'no virus' theory. This got completely distorted by Alex for some reason that escapes me, but to be honest, I think Alex started to go strange a long time back. I don't know how old he is, but maybe he is just losing it.

I do hope you stay here. You have to stay on topic much more than you did on Skeptiko, but provided you want to write about psychic matters there is no problem. The difference from Skeptiko, is that if a subject is banned, the moderators will not continue to push their point of view and slander those they don't agree with while not letting them argue back.

Just keep away from politics!

David

Posting this moment as an admin.


Just two things to clear these matters a bit as they relate to PsienceQuest.

1) It's possible to write about politics or controversial non-psi-related topics on this forum, but one has to respect and follow rule 9:

Quote:9. Policy on non-psi-related conspiracy theories and political topics

Discussions about politics and conspiracy theories that are not directly related to psi phenomena (where psi phenomena include UFOs and other sub-forum topics) should be confined to the hidden child forums within the Other Topics sub-forum. See here on how to join those child forums.

2) The members who choose to join and contribute to those child forums, must then conform to the rules that are applied only to those child forums, which are posted at the top of each of those child forums.

I'm reproducing them here for those who may not have visited them or haven't in a while:
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To me it looks like Skeptiko is shredding it’s european audience as it’s becoming more about politics and less about science and parapsychology in particular. Actually I have a hard time following what they debate these days.
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I wouldn't personally criticize Alex myself. I think it's clear, or that's what I'm getting at from glancing at his answers, is that it's always been about his personal journey. So understandably that is limiting for many others, and his "community" is at the mercy of wherever his personal journey takes him. So it's a podcast and a forum (from what I gather, which I will admit is very limited now) where the driving force is Alex's concerns, questions, investigations, as opposed to a general topic, like psi for example.

Part of my personal motivation as one of the people who wanted to start this forum was to no longer be at the mercy of the whims of an individual as to what could happen to that forum. Like living under a threat of "existential forum annihilation" if you will.
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(2023-06-21, 02:22 PM)Ninshub Wrote: I wouldn't personally criticize Alex myself. I think it's clear, or that's what I'm getting at from glancing at his answers, is that it's always been about his personal journey. So understandably that is limiting for many others, and his "community" is at the mercy of wherever his personal journey takes him. So it's a podcast and a forum (from what I gather, which I will admit is very limited now) where the driving force is Alex's concerns, questions, investigations, as opposed to a general topic, like psi for example.

Part of my personal motivation as one of the people who wanted to start this forum was to no longer be at the mercy of the whims of an individual as to what could happen to that forum. Like living under a threat of "existential forum annihilation" if you will.

You nailed it dude Thumbs Up
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(2023-06-21, 11:26 AM)Jim_Smith Wrote: What is the "no virus" theory?
The 'no virus' theory was and is the idea that viruses as such do not exist or that they do not transmit infection. If you are interested, I suggest you contact me in a PM and I will explain and give you some links.

Alex seems to use the strange process of forcing people to contact particular researchers before they can continue to post at Skeptiko. It is an absurd request - particularly the person in question is not going to be in tune with your ideas.

I have been in that frozen state for some time now.

As you know, I used to moderate Skeptiko, and Alex suddenly said he wanted me to moderate anonymously - which was something I did not want to do. We mutually agreed that I would no longer moderate the forum, but Alex seemed to have difficulty removing my moderation privileges! I don't think Alex knows how to control his own forum properly. This is why (I think) he bans people in the rather odd way that you and I were banned.

I know this place seems at first sight more restrictive, but I think Skeptiko got out of control because it began to dip into too many issues.

David
Glad to have you Jim
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