Stuart Hameroff's ideas.

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(2024-08-28, 04:46 PM)David001 Wrote: Going to @21 minutes, I hear that the redness of a rose is a particular pattern in spacetime geometry.

That explanation makes me pretty uneasy - does it mean anything?

I got the feeling that at that point SH was summarising his old view, before opening up to some new ideas.

David

This is where it gets odd. Judging by his talks/essays/etc he genuinely seems to feel there is a structure akin to physics at all levels of reality, and that this structure is also tied to qualia.

My problem with this is it ultimately seems like "magic" in the negative sense of something nonsensical that has to be accepted as brute fact. Why would any particular structure correspond to Redness?

OTOH when he posts stuff like this:

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https://x.com/StuartHameroff/status/1798355327630586286

I can't help but wonder if he believes some transcendent Consciousness precedes the assignment of qualia to particular structures of space-time geometry...but if he thinks Brahman has some kind of space-time structure he's badly misunderstood what Brahman is referring to.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-25, 10:48 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Larry - 2024-08-25, 11:02 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-26, 09:32 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-26, 11:56 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-26, 12:47 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-27, 01:50 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-27, 05:13 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-26, 10:57 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-27, 10:34 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 02:09 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 03:52 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 04:43 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 04:57 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 04:59 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 05:49 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 06:21 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 06:33 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 09:45 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-28, 10:46 AM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 07:02 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 07:29 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 07:52 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 08:02 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by stephenw - 2024-08-28, 01:19 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-28, 04:46 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 06:16 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-08-28, 07:39 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2024-08-28, 05:05 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-08-29, 04:00 PM
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RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2024-09-01, 08:02 AM
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RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Jim_Smith - 2024-09-10, 02:42 AM
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RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by nbtruthman - 2024-09-10, 11:24 PM
RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2025-01-30, 03:38 AM
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RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by David001 - 2025-02-01, 12:08 AM
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RE: Stuart Hameroff's ideas. - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2025-02-01, 02:46 AM
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