(2023-07-21, 03:40 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Getting a bit technical here...I am still chewing on the two papers you posted, one by Tononi et all and the other by Kauffman and Roli. Both are highly significant.
On a more serious note, it seems like you are saying Information is what shifts the physical over from deterministic processes...but isn't the best of our current scientific knowledge telling us QM is indeterministic?
My own subjective view leans toward a fully probabilistic state of affairs, with the actualization/decoherence of manifest reality - the streaming here and now - being a special state of 100% probability - where the determination of physical outcomes is grounded. Physical outcomes and informational outcomes occur in different states, with informational outcomes happening in a coherent fashion.
From a science methodological point of view, the past is all informational - as is the future - and observable as being unified and continuous probabilistic wave patterns. Now is fixed, discrete, granular and expressive of particulars. In an informational environment an outcome can be spread out in time and in different places, integrating into the emerging present in surprising ways (think chaos theory).
The mind can detect information in all three states of time. Now/here is from stimulus signals inbound from the senses. Self-aware minds can observe themselves in real time. The kicker is by structuring a future action (a plan) with a pattern from the past, mental action can change future probabilities. That happens in a determined way when the plan is actively enforced in physical time and space. Hence, mind is determinative. Just in a different context than abstract empirical patterns such as the physical laws.
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