Doug's anomalous experiences

Thanks for posting your concern, Obiwan. I suppose the probability of my having missed a subtle, mundane cause at the time of the incident will necessarily always remain non-zero, but I believe I was a conscientious enough observer to effectively rule out a physical cause for the phenomenon.

As to whether I later misremembered one or more details of the experience...all I can say is that I did query my brother about his observations at the time of the incident (as well as a few years ago), and found that they substantially agreed with mine. In addition, I can't for the life of me envision a scenario in which both my brother and I saw something other than what we assert and mistook it for dancing shoelaces.

Thanks Doug. I wasn’t suggesting you’d missed anything subtle really, just making the point that in the general case it’s a consideration. I think you saw exactly what you said however it’s past my boggle-threshold if you get me?

One of my closest friends, a person of intellect, honesty and perception has had experiences which render any debate about survival redundant. Do I believe him? Yes. Am I convinced of survival? Curiously no. They are so beyond my experience I need to see it for myself.