The illogic of Atheism

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(2018-04-07, 06:26 AM)Valmar Wrote: Gee, let me think, because it's so hard for you...

I can easily imagine an NDE or a mystical experience would do the trick in convincing someone that there is something that exists beyond our comprehension or imagination or being able to be dreamed up, which requires imagination to do so.

So... there would be something that cannot truly known nor understood, yet exists.

Like a fairy? Wink

Quote:This is not the god of religion... this is the "God" of mysticism, of philosophical meandering, the "God" whose nature is a mystery, yet the journey toward trying to understand is built upon. Thus, Plato's One, Lao Tzu's Tao, Hinduism's mystical concept of Brahman, etc.


Yep. You may well be right. What I am finding interesting is that folk are having to get very slippery and non-specific with their definition of ‘god’ to argue against the ‘tooth fairy’ argument.

This may suggest the argument is sound with the vast majority of gods and religions at which it is directed.

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The illogic of Atheism - by Valmar - 2018-04-02, 11:11 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-02, 04:03 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Silence - 2018-04-02, 05:00 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by malf - 2018-04-03, 02:17 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Chris - 2018-04-03, 08:21 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Valmar - 2018-04-03, 08:35 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Chris - 2018-04-03, 08:37 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-03, 11:24 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Silence - 2018-04-03, 01:42 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-03, 06:15 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2018-04-03, 07:12 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Kamarling - 2018-04-03, 08:38 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Silence - 2018-04-03, 08:39 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 03:03 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-04, 04:07 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Kamarling - 2018-04-04, 05:51 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Brian - 2018-05-10, 03:47 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Kamarling - 2018-04-03, 08:49 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2018-04-03, 10:14 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Kamarling - 2018-04-04, 06:00 AM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Silence - 2018-04-04, 12:47 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 01:50 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-04, 07:34 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 08:07 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-04, 08:19 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Silence - 2018-04-04, 02:27 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 03:51 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-04, 07:44 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 08:21 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-04, 08:26 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by fls - 2018-04-04, 09:06 PM
RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Dante - 2018-04-05, 01:51 AM
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RE: The illogic of Atheism - by Steve001 - 2018-04-05, 12:50 AM
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