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(2018-04-20, 03:58 AM)Laird Wrote: So, they had the technology for interstellar travel, but not to automate mining? Not that I'm convinced... but just to argue the toss... we're pretty good at adaption, and completely self-sufficient (automated?)... so if you could travel at very close to the speed of light... you could dump life on a planet... and then take advantage of relativity, so that when you swung by the planet again... the job you needed doing would be done - whatever that might be. I mean, a photon from a star 10,000 light years away, takes - from our perspective - 10,000 years traveling at the speed of light to reach us. But from the photon's perspective, it made the trip pretty much instantaneously - next to no time passed for it. So no big deal, relativistically it's like planting some seeds, then jumping into the future to harvest the crop immediately - no need to even wait, instant corn.
We shall not cease from exploration
(This post was last modified: 2018-04-21, 11:04 PM by Max_B.)
And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time.
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(2018-04-21, 11:01 PM)Max_B Wrote: Not that I'm convinced... but just to argue the toss... we're pretty good at adaption, and completely self-sufficient (automated?)... so if you could travel at very close to the speed of light... you could dump life on a planet... and then take advantage of relativity, so that when you swung by the planet again... the job you needed doing would be done - whatever that might be.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time.
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(2018-04-21, 11:01 PM)Max_B Wrote: Not that I'm convinced... but just to argue the toss... we're pretty good at adaption, and completely self-sufficient (automated?)... so if you could travel at very close to the speed of light... you could dump life on a planet... and then take advantage of relativity, so that when you swung by the planet again... the job you needed doing would be done - whatever that might be. Cool idea! But if us hairy numbers are already at a stage where automation is cheaper/more efficient than manual labour (and has been in some areas for well over a century or two), then you'd think some kind of self replicating robot thingy would be a better bet for a super advanced interstellar species. Love the thinking, though. Edit: Upon reflection: I suppose some materialists would call humans self replicating robot thingies..... but then you'd have to think the aliens could've come up with something a little more efficient..... removing the 'unionism' and 'pulling a sickie' genes might've been a start. ![]() [that edit is no reflection on my politics, btw]
Formerly dpdownsouth. Let me dream if I want to.
(This post was last modified: 2018-04-22, 05:06 PM by woethekitty.)
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(2018-04-22, 01:55 PM)dpdownsouth Wrote: Cool idea! But if us hairy numbers are already at a stage where automation is cheaper/more efficient than manual labour (and has been in some areas for well over a century or two), then you'd think some kind of self replicating robot thingy would be a better bet for a super advanced interstellar species. I’d definitely put myself in the self replicating robot club. But also so much more than any ‘robot’ we might conceive of. But for me robots are probably not the right place to begin from... sort of like wrong end of the telescope through which to make sense of my experiences. Makes more sense to me to begin from a position where I consider everything as information.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time.
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(2018-04-20, 03:58 AM)Laird Wrote: So, they had the technology for interstellar travel, but not to automate mining? They had both and the need for manual labor, apparently, was a requirement. You do understand that interstellar travel and fully automated mining are not necessarily equally difficult/easy?
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(2018-04-20, 03:58 AM)Laird Wrote: Pssst Wrote: [url=http://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-was-there-a-civilization-on-earth-before-humans?pid=16281#pid16281][/url]500,000 Earth years ago The Anunnaki created 'Homo Sapiens' from 'Homo-Erectus' to aid/assist with mining Gold and other minerals. The creation of HS from HE, the concept was not to create fully conscious beings...and initially, they did not. The Anunnaki, as within many inter-dimensional communities, is factioned. One faction (Enkiites) saw the potential in HS and, without approval, reformed DNA to allow for the growth of consciousness. Even then, only a portion of the HE community was reformed into non-conscious HS and conscious-growing HS. All of this has been related a zillion times before, by much more appropriate conduits than I, go find out for yourself if interested...in something a bit more adult than silly swipes at POV that you cannot comprehend.
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