The Interbrain

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"Wi Fi Telepathy" seems to insinuate that it's a quite limited, local means of communication, which anybody who knows anything about animals would think is rather common knowledge. I.E the use of odor and hormones for certain changes in emotion and detection of it
(This post was last modified: 2018-01-18, 02:35 AM by Desperado.)
(2018-01-17, 09:05 AM)Desperado Wrote: They wouldn't happen to be trying to pass this off as a explanation for any psi abilities, would they? (I know, that sounds ridiculous)

"Wi Fi Telepathy" seems to insinuate that it's a quite limited, local means of communication, which anybody who knows anything about animals would think is rather common knowledge. I.E the use of odor and hormones for certain changes in emotion and detection of it

Whereas "psi abilities" are...?

I expect, just like NDEs, there isn't one explanation for all experiences and stories. This may be useful for some I guess.
(2018-01-11, 09:48 AM)tim Wrote: Yes, I thought Malf would like that. Wait until Max logs in, we'll never hear the last of it ! Smile

They wouldn't be trying to pass this off as an explanation for PSI would they? Definitely not past very local communication. The authors stress the close proximity/range
(2018-01-18, 02:38 AM)Desperado Wrote: They wouldn't be trying to pass this off as an explanation for PSI would they? Definitely not past very local communication. The authors stress the close proximity/range

Dunno, Desperado. It's all unfalsifiable anyway.
(2018-01-18, 02:38 AM)Desperado Wrote: They wouldn't be trying to pass this off as an explanation for PSI would they? Definitely not past very local communication. The authors stress the close proximity/range

It sounds as though it might potentially be relevant to "the sense of being stared at" - though obviously not in experiments where the staring was done remotely via a CCTV link. It's difficult to imagine how it would explain other experimental evidence for psi, except perhaps with the most unsophisticated protocols which allowed scope for sensory cueing.
(2018-01-18, 05:37 PM)Chris Wrote: It sounds as though it might potentially be relevant to "the sense of being stared at" - though obviously not in experiments where the staring was done remotely via a CCTV link. It's difficult to imagine how it would explain other experimental evidence for psi, except perhaps with the most unsophisticated protocols which allowed scope for sensory cueing.


Regarding the sense of being stared at via CCTV, there are lots of online webcams around the world. A while ago, (two or three years) I used to watch some street scenes in a faraway country, where pedestrians and some traffic was shown. On one occasion I was thinking something about one of the people in the video (only about five or ten pixels high), and I put my finger on the screen to poke that image. The person stopped and turned around. It was kind of weird, easy to explain as coincidence of course. After that I think I went through a kind of "beginners luck" thing where for a while I could randomly select a person on the screen and ask them to turn around, it seemed to work, then gradually the effect disappeared. It seemed to work better when I didn't really think it was possible, it was just an amusing idea, but when I took it seriously, it stopped.
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(2018-01-26, 12:07 PM)Typoz Wrote: Regarding the sense of being stared at via CCTV, there are lots of online webcams around the world. A while ago, (two or three years) I used to watch some street scenes in a faraway country, where pedestrians and some traffic was shown. On one occasion I was thinking something about one of the people in the video (only about five or ten pixels high), and I put my finger on the screen to poke that image. The person stopped and turned around. It was kind of weird, easy to explain as coincidence of course. After that I think I went through a kind of "beginners luck" thing where for a while I could randomly select a person on the screen and ask them to turn around, it seemed to work, then gradually the effect disappeared. It seemed to work better when I didn't really think it was possible, it was just an amusing idea, but when I took it seriously, it stopped.

You know Typoz, that is very very interesting. Seriously. Almost seems to echo the idea of psi being a very fragile process, one that can lose it's effect simply by a change in mentation. Guess you could compare what you possibly observed as being similar to the "sense of being stared at" experiments done by Dean Radin
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(2018-01-27, 11:23 AM)Desperado Wrote: You know Typoz, that is very very interesting. Seriously. Almost seems to echo the idea of psi being a very fragile process, one that can lose it's effect simply by a change in mentation. Guess you could compare what you possibly observed as being similar to the "sense of being stared at" experiments done by Dean Radin

Dean Radin? Maybe you're right, I know Rupert Sheldrake has done experiments on the "sense of being stared at", I may have forgotten that others have studied this too.

I recall a number of years ago a rather disturbing incident, I was "watching the world go by" from an upstairs window. There were one or two people in the street, perhaps someone parking a car, that sort of thing. Suddenly, one of the pedestrians who was just walking along, stopped, turned and stared directly up at the window where I was. I don't think I was even visible, the curtains and relative dimness inside meant there was nothing to see, nor any sound. It was done with unerring accuracy, it wasn't a general gaze, or a scan up and down all of the the buildings, just an immediate and direct identification of my position.

From what I recall reading or hearing (possibly in some of Sheldrake's work), hunters have to take similar care with regard to not alerting their prey - it isn't enough to take care of things such as smell, sound or vision when trying to remain hidden and undetected. It is also a matter of controlling one's very thoughts too, or the prey will be alerted and probably flee.

When it comes to the online webcams, I'm aware that I may not be the only observer, popular locations such as New York or London may have hundreds of people watching the webcam. But some of the less well-known ones may have just the occasional visitor, so there is probably less "noise" as it were.

I haven't tried this for ages, I may have another go, it is certainly an intriguing subject.
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(2018-01-27, 12:06 PM)Typoz Wrote: Dean Radin? Maybe you're right, I know Rupert Sheldrake has done experiments on the "sense of being stared at", I may have forgotten that others have studied this too.

I recall a number of years ago a rather disturbing incident, I was "watching the world go by" from an upstairs window. There were one or two people in the street, perhaps someone parking a car, that sort of thing. Suddenly, one of the pedestrians who was just walking along, stopped, turned and stared directly up at the window where I was. I don't think I was even visible, the curtains and relative dimness inside meant there was nothing to see, nor any sound. It was done with unerring accuracy, it wasn't a general gaze, or a scan up and down all of the the buildings, just an immediate and direct identification of my position.

From what I recall reading or hearing (possibly in some of Sheldrake's work), hunters have to take similar care with regard to not alerting their prey - it isn't enough to take care of things such as smell, sound or vision when trying to remain hidden and undetected. It is also a matter of controlling one's very thoughts too, or the prey will be alerted and probably flee.

When it comes to the online webcams, I'm aware that I may not be the only observer, popular locations such as New York or London may have hundreds of people watching the webcam. But some of the less well-known ones may have just the occasional visitor, so there is probably less "noise" as it were.

I haven't tried this for ages, I may have another go, it is certainly an intriguing subject.

Forgot Sheldrake did it first. But I believe Radin has done it too, and it was where I first heard about the studies actually.

As off track as it, when I was younger, I used to read all sorts of first hand accounts of Bigfoot sightings around the internet. Strange fascination but all the same I noticed something similar to what you are saying. Many of these people would say they felt "paralyzed" when they saw one of these creatures and/or would have all other noise just completely filtered out around them. Almost as if an extreme form of this "thought control" from predator to prey.

Not arguing for the existence of Bigfoot, by the way, but rather spotting something from long ago that reminds me of that. I've heard accounts of a similar phenomenon of weaker effect happening between humans and known predators
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