Some thoughts on the logic of 'Heaven would be boring' arguments

Two problems with heaven come to mind immediately (slightly different than the boredom problem).

1) Polarity is an inherent aspect of consciousness/being. If you’re in paradise, then you’re unconscious of the opposite pole. You’re either ignorant and naive or repressing the knowledge of the Darkness and therefore not fully conscious. To be fully alive and fully conscious is to exist in the middle between Heaven and Hell. Christ as an archetype of the fully integrated Self is the bridge between Heaven and Hell. There is an asymmetry between these poles which drives motion. The asymmetry is that the Good is greater than the Evil which means the ultimate fear driving Evil is the fear of death or being forgotten. The ultimate reward driving the positive pole is eternal life. But because of this principle of polarity and maximum consciousness being found in the middle, those who try to keep their life by striving for the one pole end up losing it while those who voluntarily give up their life and descend to the depths of Hell will find life. 

2) The separation of Will and it’s manifestation is the origin of time, desire, and purpose. Desire and purpose are unrealized potential. Potential energy we can analogously call Voltage. Voltage drives current and with a circuit we can build something interesting. When desire manifests instantly there is no voltage, no potential, no capacity to do work or build anything. The creative principle must first be frustrated before it can be released.

Two problems with heaven come to mind immediately (slightly different than the boredom problem).

1) Polarity is an inherent aspect of consciousness/being. If you’re in paradise, then you’re unconscious of the opposite pole. You’re either ignorant and naive or repressing the knowledge of the Darkness and therefore not fully conscious. To be fully alive and fully conscious is to exist in the middle between Heaven and Hell. Christ as an archetype of the fully integrated Self is the bridge between Heaven and Hell. There is an asymmetry between these poles which drives motion. The asymmetry is that the Good is greater than the Evil which means the ultimate fear driving Evil is the fear of death or being forgotten. The ultimate reward driving the positive pole is eternal life. But because of this principle of polarity and maximum consciousness being found in the middle, those who try to keep their life by striving for the one pole end up losing it while those who voluntarily give up their life and descend to the depths of Hell will find life. 

2) The separation of Will and it’s manifestation is the origin of time, desire, and purpose. Desire and purpose are unrealized potential. Potential energy we can analogously call Voltage. Voltage drives current and with a circuit we can build something interesting. When desire manifests instantly there is no voltage, no potential, no capacity to do work or build anything. The creative principle must first be frustrated before it can be released.

My impression is that this is an argument by assertion, stating an opinion as fact. This doesn't seem psychologically valid to me. Do you have any studies or other evidence?

My impression is that this is an argument by assertion, stating an opinion as fact. This doesn't seem psychologically valid to me. Do you have any studies or other evidence?

Name something that doesn't have an opposite.

Name something that doesn't have an opposite.

That there is logically and abstractly a possible opposite doesn't mean that this theoretical, abstract opposite thing is actually manifested in reality.

Name something that doesn't have an opposite.

A Boeing 747-400.

A Boeing 747-400.

The opposite of a Boeing 747-400 is: not a Boeing 747-400.

This was posted elsewhere regarding the rejection of even Heavenly delights in pursuit of Nirvana, an interesting quote ->

"Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating across lives & wandering this long, long time - crying & weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing - or the water in the four great oceans? Which is greater, the blood you have shed from having your heads cut off while transmigrating & wandering this long, long time, or the water in the four great oceans?

From an in-construable beginning comes lifetimes of transmigration. A beginning point is not evident, though beings hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving are transmigrating and wandering on. Just as a stick thrown up in the air lands sometimes on its base, sometimes on its side, sometimes on its tip; in the same way, beings hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving, transmigrating and wandering on, sometimes go from this world to another world, sometimes come from another world to this.

Long have you thus experienced suffering, experienced pain, experienced loss, swelling the cemeteries - enough to become disenchanted with all fabrications, enough to become dispassionate, enough to be liberated."
 -Siddhārtha Gautama

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I think the crux of the Spira view is non-duality but I'm not sure how far he takes this - all the way to solipsism?

Just on this question of Spira and solipsism.

In this current, ongoing thread I've posted several videos where he distinguishes his view from solipsism, but here's a very telling (and moving) exchange with a speaker/questioner where she identifies herself as a solipsist and he helps her to consider that solipsism is false.

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I like that bit: "By solipsism you mean only your mind exists. (Pause). Why are you asking me a question then?"