(2022-02-02, 07:11 PM)North Wrote: I see no reference to spheres nor medieval ideas, but wont continue the discussion.
Since I was very obtuse the first time, here is my explanation. As I said, I could be totally wrong.
Okay, Rumi, being a man of his time, subscribed to a version of the chain of being - that creation is organised in a hierarchy of nested spheres with the earth at its centre and God at the top or outer rim. He makes reference to these spheres in a number of his poems describing the soul's descent and ascent from source. For example, Islam describes these spheres as having 100 000 way stations which one has to travel through. Correspondingly, Rumi mentions this 100 000 explicitly a few times in connection to the process of spiritual ascent or descent.
The lowest sphere is the lunar and contains the four elements (fire, air, water, and earth), this elemental sphere governs the three elemental kingdoms (mineral, plant and animal), and is followed by the various celestial spheres, the home of the angels, and eventually the Throne of God.
So, you see, with all that in mind, the poem could be something quite other than an early precursor to biological evolution or even a representation of the transmigration of the soul. It's really rather orthodox in my view: Rumi descended the celestial hierarchy to be born a human. When he dies, he shall re ascend, eventually reaching God.
“I died as mineral and became a plant,
I died as plant and rose to animal,
I died as animal and I was human,
Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die human,
To soar with angels blessed above.
And when I sacrifice my angel soul
I shall become what no mind ever conceived.
As a human, I will die once more,
Reborn, I will with the angels soar.
And when I let my angel body go,
I shall be more than mortal mind can know.”
Formerly dpdownsouth. Let me dream if I want to.
(This post was last modified: 2022-02-07, 10:05 AM by woethekitty. Edited 3 times in total.)