New video - Neuroscientific Evidence: Irreducible Mind (Part 1)

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(2020-06-17, 02:48 PM)OmniVersalNexus Wrote: Also, I have seen that video before and the debates in the comments section (which included some who challenged aspects of the video, but I only skimmed them since YouTube comments are rarely very well-informed). I saw the video mentioned on Bernardo Kastrup's blog/forum site: https://www.bernardokastrup.com/2020/02/...ss-in.html

Thanks for this, I actually missed BK commenting on the video itself.

I do think "consciousness can collapse the wave function" should be separate from the idea that you can alter reality.

IIRC Michio Kaku noted in his book that observation causing a collapse doesn't mean this collapse is toward your intention.

As to how this might happen, Marcus Arvan gets into some ideas here in his Dualist Peer 2 Peer Simulation Hypothesis.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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(2020-06-18, 01:14 AM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Nothing Max said has anything to do with metaphysics. [Or, at the least, he was not making a philosophical argument for a particular metaphysics.]

I think you're confused about what "metaphysics" means.
I didn't say he was directly. But he is making an assumption based on a belief something is true. That he did state. That's metaphysics. If not as you stated then what is his assumption?
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(2020-06-18, 01:35 AM)Max_B Wrote: About what?

What lies within metaphysics?

The question is are there quantum processes in the brain?
In post 57 you posted 3 replies. I replied to those with 3 of my own in order to yours. Review post 57.

"What lays within metaphysics?"  *Psi certainly does that's what I've been told explicitly and implicitly for [centuries it seems]. At it's core psi for so many encompasses meaning, spiritual nature of reality, humanity and the individual. If psi is just a deeper understanding of nature analogous to QM vs classical physics then the whole argument of an immaterial world crumples. In other words a realization the nature of reality is not spiritual but an extention of this physical reality.

* I'm using psi loosely.
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(2020-06-18, 12:20 PM)Max_B Wrote: I was asking questions, about your questions... because I didn’t understand what you were asking about?  Your questions seemed unrelated to what I had originally written (at least I couldn’t see any connection?).

I still don’t understand your three questions...?

This new post merely restates that you responded with 3 questions. One of which you now appear to have presumably answered in a way that you find satisfying.

But I still don’t understand either the 3 questions you posed, and what they, or your answer to your own question have to do with what I originally wrote?
It appears we both have misunderstood each other, so let's keep it simple with a simple quest. How do view your existence?
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(2020-06-18, 04:34 PM)Max_B Wrote: What did you misunderstand?
Quote:Presumably we're not completely separate, otherwise we wouldn't be apparently having a shared experience of nature.
Does the wording not express a holistic view?
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Here is Part 2 that he uploaded, focusing on the Hard Problem. Surprisingly, the comments are generally much more optimistic and positive on this one after skimming through them.
Honestly though the thumbnail is misleading, since I don't think he mentions psi. I also doubt this guy will bring up reincarnation (since he's Christian), but I do think he'll mention NDEs.
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