New photo and crash materials presented by MUFON

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For those few who like to keep up with the latest goings-on in the UFO world, the following article is at least interesting at least to those who still have somewhat of an open mind on the legitimacy of the field and the reality of the coverup. It is information and a photograph recently obtained by MUFON, the premier UFO-investigatory organization in the country. Their standards are several cuts above the average enthusiast's. The photograph was presented June 22 by MUFON's Director of Media Relations, Ron James, during an interview on a YouTube channel, and is said to be an authentic image of a crashed UFO. This somewhat blurry photograph (reproduced) purports to be of an actual crashed saucer. Of course you can't win in this, since better or perfect lighting, angles and other details, and then skeptics will automatically say it's AI or photoshop.

Another news item is a UFO crash debris materials case obtained by MUFON  and coming out of Russia, an admittedly questionable source, that claims that laboratory analysis could not identify virtually any of the strange materials composing it. Tests carried out by Russian laboratories, later corroborated by MUFON's own laboratory in the USA, confirm that the material is of unknown origin, apparently related in part to having very strange isotopic compositions.

MUFON announced that it will present, this July 2024, at its annual symposium, details about this case of UAP materials it recently received from Russia and which is being called “the most important UFO-related presentation that the MUFON has done." The exclusive event will be held on Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 8 pm US Central Time.

https://ovniologia.com.br/2024/06/direto...ntado.html        (Use Google Translate)
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From what I can see, the photo isn't particularly good quality and MUFON's Ron James is a film maker and could easily have created the set up for this photo to boost his Youtube channel ratings.  I'm not buying it.
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(2024-06-23, 04:44 PM)Brian Wrote: From what I can see, the photo isn't particularly good quality and MUFON's Ron James is a film maker and could easily have created the set up for this photo to boost his Youtube channel ratings.  I'm not buying it.

Apparently we get to see the photo and more evidence if we pay $100?

Quote:The MUFON director presents the image briefly on the screen, in an air of suspense, which will be explored in the next symposium. To watch the live broadcast, enthusiasts will have to shell out $100.

Little is known about the photograph as it has been presented to the public for the first time now. Better information will be obtained after the end of the July symposium, when MUFON will make the data available to the public.

Or do we get to evaluate the evidence after the symposium for free?

Anyway so far not buying it either, we'll see what comes after the symposium when the evidence is in the hands of more people to evaluate.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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Quote:Little is known about the photograph as it has been presented to the public for the first time now.

Is the photograph linked to an event?  Do we have information about the event?  The photo only appeared yesterday out of the blue with no other information connected to it.  That's a bit strange!
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It's not a new photo, it is from 1955 and the soldiers have been proven to be toys.  LOL The truth revealed!

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(2024-06-26, 05:20 PM)Brian Wrote: It's not a new photo, it is from 1955 and the soldiers have been proven to be toys.  LOL The truth revealed!

I wonder why ETH Nuts & Bolts has so much fakery?

I guess if we include Occult/Psi/New Age/Faith Healer/etc scams we could say the non-ETH stuff invites more fraud, but keeping it strictly in the realm of UFOs/UAPs there seems to be more willingness to commit to weak evidence for rather than against ETH?

Is it because ETH invites a group of people more willing to give money? Since I think UFOs/UAPs are paranormal but not Nuts & Bolts, I don't have as much investment in disclosure and my expenses are a pittance for the occasional movie/book purchase/rental.

But even Vallee, who really promoted the non-ETH hypothesis, seemed to lose some credibility over issues with the Trinity Case. Was he just too hungry at this point, wanting to confirm some physical evidence in his lifetime? It recalls Doyle's later gullibility regarding fairy photos...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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(2024-06-26, 07:00 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: I wonder why ETH Nuts & Bolts has so much fakery?

I guess if we include Occult/Psi/New Age/Faith Healer/etc scams we could say the non-ETH stuff invites more fraud, but keeping it strictly in the realm of UFOs/UAPs there seems to be more willingness to commit to weak evidence for rather than against ETH?

Is it because ETH invites a group of people more willing to give money? Since I think UFOs/UAPs are paranormal but not Nuts & Bolts, I don't have as much investment in disclosure and my expenses are a pittance for the occasional movie/book purchase/rental.

But even Vallee, who really promoted the non-ETH hypothesis, seemed to lose some credibility over issues with the Trinity Case. Was he just too hungry at this point, wanting to confirm some physical evidence in his lifetime? It recalls Doyle's later gullibility regarding fairy photos...
The problem now is, if they find real ETH, I am still going to suspect something is amiss because there has been so much fakery.
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