New developments on the UAP disclosure battle

You still haven't answered my question, which was: if this is all hogwash, why are they (elements within DOD intelligence, both houses of Congress and within defense contractors) going this far to discredit and block legislation specifically targeting purported black projects engaged in UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering? Why would it matter to them? Why would they bother to go to the trouble?

If it is all lies, then it seems that there still has to be something very secret and very important to some people who want very much to keep hidden, to completely cover up. Something presumably even more consequential and crucial and perhaps disastrous than NHIs and UFO vehicle technology. Just the purpose of deluding a small population of UFO believers and wannabe believers won't do. 

Any ideas?

I don’t care any more nbtruthman, to tell you the truth!

Yes they are hiding something imo but it’s the constant circus associated that also gives me doubt about what that actually is. 

It’s like a cat playing with a mouse before he kills it and eats it. I feel like I’m being played by somebody or something and at this point we either need full disclosure and indisputable evidence or it’s just a game to somebody.

Edit - I’m open. I’ll wait and see. I hope I’m proved wrong. But I bet we won’t see anything substantial come from these latest events.

If this really is happening, that we really have alien species visiting earth, then a cautious reminder of the potential for manipulation is something to consider seriously.

The “Allies of Humanity” (yes, I know…) present a compelling case for this in my opinion.

Here’s a link;


https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

I encourage readers to have an open mind regarding this. Think about it like this…

How beautiful and amazing would an alien species telling us all about the galactic community and telling us what we want to hear regarding spiritual matters etc etc, would be? It would be quite a smart way of manipulation. 

Anyway fwiw.

If this really is happening, that we really have alien species visiting earth, then a cautious reminder of the potential for manipulation is something to consider seriously.

The “Allies of Humanity” (yes, I know…) present a compelling case for this in my opinion.

Here’s a link;


https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

I encourage readers to have an open mind regarding this. Think about it like this…

How beautiful and amazing would an alien species telling us all about the galactic community and telling us what we want to hear regarding spiritual matters etc etc, would be? It would be quite a smart way of manipulation. 

Anyway fwiw.

That site was a tough one for me DD.  A bit to 'out there' so to speak (and pardon the pun).

That site was a tough one for me DD.  A bit to 'out there' so to speak (and pardon the pun).

Admittedly on reflection, the presentation is suspect lol.

I think the theme of the content is interesting. Purely because we don’t hear about it in the discourse at the moment.

Time will tell.

Admittedly on reflection, the presentation is suspect lol.

I think the theme of the content is interesting. Purely because we don’t hear about it in the discourse at the moment.

Time will tell.

For sure.  Its so funny to me how my mind reacts when exposed to something on this topic that's new (re: the link you provided).

On one hand my fantasy-soul gets excited by this.  A galactic battle between good and evil (aliens in this case).  However, my rational (?) mind immediately tries to put this in perspective in two ways: 1) anytime my fantasy-soul (not sure what to call this so don't read anything into the 'soul' part) lights up my rational side reminds me that fantasy stuff is typically (always?) fiction/legend content and that 2) things in actual history I mind wax fantastical about (i.e., battles between good and evil) always involve very real horrors, violence, suffering, etc.  The conquering hero in these stories, whether from history or fiction, takes the forefront while the destruction and horror that came with it (whether good won or not) is always muted/forgotten.

On another hand, my big-question-seeking side is also excited by the potential for actual alien interaction/confirmation-of-existence.  After all, they may have some insights to share there.

Lastly, and what was maybe most frightening about the link you provided, is the notion of bad actors at higher levels (i.e., aliens).  I've always hoped (assumed even?) that higher intelligence/evolved beings would be benevolent.  I have no rational basis to assert or assume this though.

Just a few random musings.

For sure.  Its so funny to me how my mind reacts when exposed to something on this topic that's new (re: the link you provided).

On one hand my fantasy-soul gets excited by this.  A galactic battle between good and evil (aliens in this case).  However, my rational (?) mind immediately tries to put this in perspective in two ways: 1) anytime my fantasy-soul (not sure what to call this so don't read anything into the 'soul' part) lights up my rational side reminds me that fantasy stuff is typically (always?) fiction/legend content and that 2) things in actual history I mind wax fantastical about (i.e., battles between good and evil) always involve very real horrors, violence, suffering, etc.  The conquering hero in these stories, whether from history or fiction, takes the forefront while the destruction and horror that came with it (whether good won or not) is always muted/forgotten.

On another hand, my big-question-seeking side is also excited by the potential for actual alien interaction/confirmation-of-existence.  After all, they may have some insights to share there.

Lastly, and what was maybe most frightening about the link you provided, is the notion of bad actors at higher levels (i.e., aliens).  I've always hoped (assumed even?) that higher intelligence/evolved beings would be benevolent.  I have no rational basis to assert or assume this though.

Just a few random musings.

Heh, I think we are on the same page with the fantasy soul part!

The idea of these aliens actually mostly being malevolent is pretty terrifying, especially when you consider that we may actually get official confirmation within our lifetimes. 

Even more terrifying is what was described by the so called “allies of humanity”. An extremely effective invasion by means of confusion and disinformation essentially (summing it up).

BUT!

All of these things are predicated on listening to one’s “soul” or “higher voice”. It is commonly stated that these beings are telepathic, or at least don’t communicate in the normal way. 

This makes it very easy to wildly interpret what you want into things. Why can’t these aliens “good or bad” just show up and make things obvious? There are so many avenues to deceive that maintaining a strict criteria for verifiable evidence that leaves no doubt, is essential!

Is it worth taking this to another thread? 

I ask not to be pendantic, rather it is b/c I really love this question but also don't want to step all over this thread's purpose of discussing current events on UFO disclosure.

Golly! Looks like Mr Grusch’s sources are the same sources that the “ufo community” (shudders) already know about! 

According to this tweet by TechNFighter;

https://x.com/technfighter/status/173062...mktg22h3Lg

“I recorded 120+ references made by David Grusch during his Nov 21, 2023 interview w/ @joerogan.

Grusch is informed by UFO lore & UFO celebrities.

He has a high degree of confidence in hearsay & circumstantial evidence”

Golly! Looks like Mr Grusch’s sources are the same sources that the “ufo community” (shudders) already know about! 

According to this tweet by TechNFighter;

https://x.com/technfighter/status/173062...mktg22h3Lg

“I recorded 120+ references made by David Grusch during his Nov 21, 2023 interview w/ @joerogan.

Grusch is informed by UFO lore & UFO celebrities.

He has a high degree of confidence in hearsay & circumstantial evidence”

Actions always speak louder than words. I refer back to my numerous posts on the mystery of why elements in DOD Intelligence, both houses of Congress, and certain major defense contractors would expend so much effort in trying to quash the Schumer Amendment which specifically requires achieving transparency and exposure with crashed UFO retrieval and reverse engineering black projects that formerly have had no Congressional oversight. If the matter simply doesn't really exist and is ultimately just human imagination, then why go to all this trouble?

Actions always speak louder than words. I refer back to my numerous posts on the mystery of why elements in DOD Intelligence, both houses of Congress, and certain major defense contractors would expend so much effort in trying to quash the Schumer Amendment which specifically requires achieving transparency and exposure with crashed UFO retrieval and reverse engineering black projects that formerly have had no Congressional oversight. If the matter simply doesn't really exist and is ultimately just human imagination, then why go to all this trouble?

Couldn't it just be a host of other black book operations that are threatened to be exposed?

Or fear of setting a precedent where such exposures could happen?