NDE Multimedia Resource Thread

After many years on the fence and being very careful with his statements he is suddenly quite vocal.

So, it is an opportunity to ask you (a sceptic) a question. Why do you think that is ?

Is it an attempt to get "Big Pharmaceuticals" to fund much larger studies, which could be "themed" more towards saving patient's brains, returning them to life, whilst at the same time trying to get the crucial evidence to answer the metaphysical side of the question ?

Thanks Tim.

It is always a tightrope he is walking, the studies have to be approved by a medical ethics committee and in some manner have to be phrased in terms of helping the patients (and rightly so of course). It can't be pure research just for the sake of it as some types of science investigation might have been in the past.

In a recent radio programme I was listening to, it was pointed out that historically scientific research was often done by wealthy members of the aristocracy who in between (or perhaps instead of) all the grand dinners and parties, would retreat to their own personal laboratory and carry out whatever experiments they liked. Nowadays it does have to be funded somehow as you point out.

It is always a tightrope he is walking

I think he deserves tremendous credit for actually doing it. Also, French and Blackmore, who I don't particularly think have helped matters much, did at least give their approval. Parnia went to see her at her cottage, apparently. Some other quite vocal sceptics didn't want it to happen, stating that it would be an infringement on the patient's care and more to the point, a waste of time.

I think he deserves tremendous credit for actually doing it. Also, French and Blackmore, who I don't particularly think have helped matters much, did at least give their approval. Parnia went to see her at her cottage, apparently. Some other quite vocal sceptics didn't want it to happen, stating that it would be an infringement on the patient's care and more to the point, a waste of time.

That's interesting. I'd not heard about the French and Blackmore involvement. If there an article to read anywhere please?

That's interesting. I'd not heard about the French and Blackmore involvement. If there an article to read anywhere please?

There's an article in which French lays out why he wants the tests doing, but I can't remember where it is. As to Blackmore, she just told me personally in an email (about Parnia going to see her). I think she also said in another article that she wanted the tests (experiment) doing.

Graeme O'Connor is a children's doctor (paediatrician of course) at Great Ormond Street hospital, in London. More than a decade and a half ago, during a night out (trying to forget about his anxiety issues/various problems), he had an unusual NDE when his heart stopped in a nightclub/bar, due to an error in mixing alcohol with special K (Ketamine I think it was likely to be but not sure). 

The near death experience of Graeme O'Connor - YouTube

In this video he describes the various powerful events he experienced, it's impact on him and later into the video how it has led him to make some really big changes in his life (he's now vegetarian for example). Although the NDE is interesting, what he said after it was even more interesting to me. He's just published a pilot study into children's NDE's and is/will be expanding into a much larger investigation. 

This small study replicates Morse's and they (the two researchers) have been careful not to "put words" into the children's mouths. I was aware of this NDE quite a while ago but I wasn't sure what to make of it. I wondered if he was a bit off the wall/rails and therefore not to be trusted (in his report) but I realise that was incorrect and he seems to be a very nice, decent chap (Doctor). Make of it what you will, anyway.  He certainly deserves great credit for undertaking such a study (children's NDE's) as it's really pushing the boundaries in an institution like that, I would have thought. 

 Exploring near death experiences with children post intensive care: A case series - ScienceDirect

Graeme O'Connor is a children's doctor (paediatrician of course) at Great Ormond Street hospital, in London. More than a decade and a half ago, during a night out (trying to forget about his anxiety issues/various problems), he had an unusual NDE when his heart stopped in a nightclub/bar, due to an error in mixing alcohol with special K (Ketamine I think it was likely to be but not sure). 

Seems he had an NDE-like experience. There are some very muddled-up ideas in that interview, particularly during the 2nd half, which I found quite difficult to listen too.

Seems he had an NDE-like experience.

I contacted him and he told me his heart had defintely stopped (one of his doctor friends was pushing on him etc). Unless he's lying or his friend is mistaken, don't we have to take his word in good 'faith'. Of course you don't have to accept it, you can remain sceptical. 

There are some very muddled-up ideas in that interview, particularly during the 2nd half, which I found quite difficult to listen too.

  
That's interesting, Max. Could you be specific ?

I contacted him and he told me his heart had defintely stopped (one of his doctor friends was pushing on him etc). Unless he's lying or his friend is mistaken, don't we have to take his word in good 'faith'. Of course you don't have to accept it, you can remain sceptical. 

  
That's interesting, Max. Could you be specific ?

These sorts of muddled comments...

On children who have died... "I, 100% know where their energies are going to"

"Religion definitely has a role here"

"If we all knew that we were the sun why would we get up... ... through that veil... ... all those human emotions that keep you here"

living in past, living in future... just live in the now... if we can just take life less seriously... Psilocybin... new drug, just completely changes their outlook on their whole life...

...and knowing that life is just a game, and we are only here to experience as many human emotions as possible... so we can grow emotionally... and our souls can grow....

I take much more risks... just do it... because life is just a game...

just shut the brain down... walking meditation... often it's a very negative narrative that goes on in peoples minds...

Just listing to the birds in a tree... I can get that higher consciousness... and connect again to that beautiful source of energy, and just not taking life seriously at all...

I've been a vegetarian now for 16 years

Before my NDE... I was a devout atheist

We all have a soul family

the turmoil you've had days or weeks after an altercation... it's just not worth doing...

power prayer, I 100% believe in now...

If you would like me to address every one of those points you've lined up there, I will, Max, no problem. Listening to it all (the second half) taking the points you've highlighted (as well of course), he is allowed as a doctor to express himself esoterically/mystically one might say (can't think of the damned term now)  as long as he makes it clear (which I think he does) that it's his personal belief based on his personal experience. 

He can't start talking like this on the ward, though. If he does, he'll quickly lose his job.