My OBE Method that's worked for me...

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(2018-05-04, 06:31 PM)Laird Wrote: Yep, same for me. I have no reason to doubt that some people have total control in their lucid dreams, but I haven't experienced that yet, and I don't think it is (or rather, should be regarded as) the defining feature of a lucid dream.

I was lucid the other night, but it only gave me control over my actions, not of those around me or of the setting and scene (which is what has always happened the 10-20 times I've been fully lucid). It was simply as if my waking consciousness was in the dreamscape, with full knowledge that I was dreaming. My wife was there with me in the dream, and I explained to her we were dreaming, and she understood in the dream and agreed, but when I woke up and asked her if she'd had any memory of dreaming with me, she said no. Not that I expected her to turn to me with wide eyes and say, "I was there!" but there was about .001% of me that thought maybe, just maybe.
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(2018-05-06, 06:48 PM)berkelon Wrote: My wife was there with me in the dream, and I explained to her we were dreaming, and she understood in the dream and agreed, but when I woke up and asked her if she'd had any memory of dreaming with me, she said no. Not that I expected her to turn to me with wide eyes and say, "I was there!" but there was about .001% of me that thought maybe, just maybe.

Very interesting. A month or two back I posted about an almost identical lucid dream experience (but with my father) on Skeptiko in the middle of this post, which was responding to Wormwood's post in which he related that his friend had had a similar apparently shared lucid dream which his father confirmed.
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(2018-05-04, 06:31 PM)Laird Wrote: Yep, same for me. I have no reason to doubt that some people have total control in their lucid dreams, but I haven't experienced that yet, and I don't think it is (or rather, should be regarded as) the defining feature of a lucid dream.

I define a lucid dream as any dream where you are aware you are dreaming. No other criteria matters. I have about 7 different dream types that I've discovered that I should probably make a different post on.

(2018-05-06, 06:48 PM)berkelon Wrote: I was lucid the other night, but it only gave me control over my actions, not of those around me or of the setting and scene (which is what has always happened the 10-20 times I've been fully lucid). It was simply as if my waking consciousness was in the dreamscape, with full knowledge that I was dreaming. My wife was there with me in the dream, and I explained to her we were dreaming, and she understood in the dream and agreed, but when I woke up and asked her if she'd had any memory of dreaming with me, she said no. Not that I expected her to turn to me with wide eyes and say, "I was there!" but there was about .001% of me that thought maybe, just maybe.

In my experience there's a few reasons you didn't share the dream

1: the person in the dream was just a "representation" of your wife and thus not real.

2: The dream is/was time delayed and either your wife hasn't had her part of it yet or the timeline has shifted and you desynced. Meaning that the dream was shared but not with this version of your wife.

3: the dream was time delayed, she had her piece, but forgot.

In general, with my experience having and inducing shared dreams with Dreamsoap and a few others. Real people emit energy constantly, making them feel "real." Representation emit nothing, making them feel hollow and empty and otherwise "fake."

I don't know if someone needs to have a decent grasp  of energy to tell this difference but it certainly helps. The time delay stuff makes telling whether a dream/projection/obe is real or not very, very hard and annoying since you can't just set up reliable time controlled experiments with it. Or at least I can't. It does seem like it should be possible with enough practice though. I wrote about this before I think.
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Have you (or any OBEr) tested the OBE by e.g. having a friend write a number down in another room and you seeing it in your OBE? That should be relatively easy to test under controlled conditions (and win one of the paranormal prizes).
(2018-10-03, 10:23 AM)Oliver Wrote: Have you (or any OBEr) tested the OBE by e.g. having a friend write a number down in another room and you seeing it in your OBE? That should be relatively easy to test under controlled conditions (and win one of the paranormal prizes).

I don't know about anyone else but I haven't and have no intention to.
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