I decided I’d try cobbling together the general method I’ve been using to induce OBE’s/Projections. Mainly focusing on OBE because there really isn’t much difference beyond depth. I can’t guarantee it will work for anyone else though. One big reason I’ve struggled with posting some of my methods is that all of them require the user to have knowledge and control over their own energy. For a lot of people the concept of energy is incredibly foreign and I honestly have no idea how to really get peoplen started on it. Also I really wanted to provide the context for how I learned all this but right now I just thought whatever I’ll just post it anyways and see what happens. So, I don’t know if this method will really work for anyone at all on here. Nonetheless here’s what I do.
I lay down and get comfy, this is important for two reasons, being relaxed helps with focus, but more importantly if you leave your body too much you can collapse if you’re standing and you can injure your body, probably killing it at worst. I don’t recommend trying to do this when you go to bed or after you first get up. Chances are you’ll just fall asleep. You want to be totally awake and aware for this so middle of the day is best. Oh and most importantly, no drugs. Coffee may or may not be okay though.
I close my eyes and start my energy up. Some people may be aware of the standard “vibration” and “ringing in the ears” that I’ve learned is associated with OBE’s. Well to me that sounds like what happens when I run my energy so it’s probably the same thing. In my case I do it consciously. I try to make sure that I have a full, pressurized supply before making any OBE attempt since that’s literally my thrust to get out of my body. The more I have, the better. I know it probably sounds weird to describe an energy “supply” let alone a “pressurized” one, but that’s how it is.
I start some random visualization, doesn’t matter what it is, just something visual. I let it run and don’t try to control it, usually it morphs and does all sorts of weird things but that’s what I want.
I try to run my energy as hard as it will go, usually “colouring” it with the emotion or feeling of what I’m trying to target. Then I wait.
Usually around this time I’ll start popping in and out of what I like to call the “radio state.” A state where I will often hear a wide variety of things, usually random people talking amongst themselves. These voices are very distinctly physical, and tangibly impact me from the outside very much like natural sounds impact the ear before you hear them. Although difficult, sometimes I’ve managed to talk to people in this state and one time I was able to tune it well enough that I could hear my own echo coming back at me through the radio state. I very seriously doubt what is encountered in the radio state is imagination or generated from my own mind due to the various tests I’ve done.
Eventually, if the energy flow is high and stable enough, if the emotional injection into the energy is constat enough, and if overall mental focus is maintained, the visualization may suddenly “pop” into some very solid, stable “window” that is distinctly more crisp and vivid than what is possible with imagination alone. Give it some time to fully stabilize, I always mess up on this part. If you try plunging through before it’s stabilized you will hit a wall. Like, you will accelerate towards the window, and hit something. That’s what happens to me. Yes, just like a bird. I have no clue why this happens but it’s happened to me many times now and has ruined those attempts.
At this point you’re probably starting to get sucked into the window involuntarily and it’s starting to become perceptually more your reality than wherever your are physically. So its imperative that you make sure you’re going to end up somewhere you actually want to be. Because there’s a chance that you ain’t coming back. I don’t know how much of a chance, but a chance nonetheless. If possible, shift the window somewhere else.
Once you’ve got your location set or are just going to wing it and go wherever the window is open to and make the most of it like an episode of Sliders, you can let yourself get pulled in. Warning, this will probably hurt more than a little bit. Feels like some part of me is getting peeled off every time and it kinda sucks. But I deal with it. And ummm, that’s it. You may or may not be able to consciously return to your body. If you can, congratulations, you’ve retained your tether which also means you’re not in as deep as you could be. If you don’t feel any connection to tug on to get yourself back to your body then let’s hope you didn’t just pop into a hive of giant bees or something because leaving is no longer up to you and death and injury is almost certainly real.
I call the latter state “Full Transition” and it’s simultaneously the best and worst thing ever depending on the context. Luckily through testing I’ve found that bleeding off enough energy has a chance of kicking you down to your body or at least reconnecting your tether. So if you know how to do that then you might be okay. But it’s not a guarantee that it will work. This is especially true if another entity decides they’re going to do what I call “locking down” your projection, or OBE in this case. Which is where they will use their energy to tether you and prevent you from running away. If this happens, you’re probably fucked. Unless you can kill them or otherwise disrupt their lockdown and then successfully escape before they can reinstate it congratulations you might be worse than dead. This is a large part of why I don’t like OBE’s or projection anymore and why I really, really don’t recommend others do them unless they are willing and able to deal with the possible consequences.
These consequences can’t be solved by imagining yellow light or thinking about love or burning some sage or putting a salt ring around yourself or any of that stuff. More than likely if you’ve been locked down you are dealing with someone that is psychic, has some degree of magic, and some experience fighting, so unless you’ve got something that can counter that you probably have no chance of winning.
You can try calling for help psychically but if an entity is half decently smart they will jam that as part of the lockdown so don’t depend on it. I especially don’t recommend that someone with religious leanings attempt to OBE because you are pretty much veal. There’s a chance people will try to convince you that they’re gods or angels and they’ll try to lead you on about how you’re the chosen one or whatever. They will tell you everything you want to hear, everything that confirms your beliefs, while using their magic in ways subtle and overt to “prove” it. Feeling “love and goodness” from these people, for example, might as well be them shooting you with a tranquilliser to make you more "agreeable." Then use you for their own benefit or just for fun. This is not guaranteed of course but it’s enough of a risk that I’m going to mention it.
Despite all the possible negatives there’s also a lot of possible positives. Although now that I think of it, I’m not sure what value those positives have to someone who’s trying to live a relatively normal life. I mean sure you can meet people, learn new perspectives and all that. And to be honest for most people the chances of running into anything dangeous is probably slim to none.
But I guess from my perspective as someone who has no interest in a normal life and wants to make magic real here, bridge the two worlds and all that stuff. Who sees themselves as not even supposed to be here. Who's just going to die either way and who's possibilities down here are so limited, mundane and boring as to be worthless even just to pass the time. The value is that I might be able to return to the people I care about. I don’t think other people really have the same goal. My experience up there has been going to various tournaments either to watch or participate, hanging out with friends, learning about a few other cultures, customs and language quirks, helping a few people and seeing some interesting sights. I don’t really know what others might get out of it beyond a sort of novelty of “I left my body and saw cool things” but I’ll leave that up for you to decide.
The main difference between OBE and Projection is only the depth. At least as far as I can tell. If it’s less than a Full Transition, especially if you are able to retain awareness and control of your physical body, then you’re projecting. There are pros and cons to both. Projections are far less vivid and clear and if they are too weak they have a high chance of including imagined content. However projections are much safer since less of your energy is committed to it. Full Transitions are indistinguishable from physical reality in terms of vividness possibly because where you are going is a physical reality just like this one. You don’t need to go to the “spirit world” however, you can project to the physical world as a ghost. If you condense your energy enough that it’s able to interact with physical matter you can become a poltergeist, even a full apparition if your energy is dense enough to block light. Then I suppose if you wanted to you could go haunt something or someone. I usually use it to test out magic which I find much, much easier to perform as a poltergeist than in my physical body. All the research I did in 2017 confirmed for me that the physical body has too much resistance to allow energy to flow at a high enough rate at a high enough density to perform the same things I’ve done as a poltergeist. So 2018 is dedicated to finding a workaround. Hopefully sooner rather than later. In any case I hope this helped someone or was at least interesting to read.
I lay down and get comfy, this is important for two reasons, being relaxed helps with focus, but more importantly if you leave your body too much you can collapse if you’re standing and you can injure your body, probably killing it at worst. I don’t recommend trying to do this when you go to bed or after you first get up. Chances are you’ll just fall asleep. You want to be totally awake and aware for this so middle of the day is best. Oh and most importantly, no drugs. Coffee may or may not be okay though.
I close my eyes and start my energy up. Some people may be aware of the standard “vibration” and “ringing in the ears” that I’ve learned is associated with OBE’s. Well to me that sounds like what happens when I run my energy so it’s probably the same thing. In my case I do it consciously. I try to make sure that I have a full, pressurized supply before making any OBE attempt since that’s literally my thrust to get out of my body. The more I have, the better. I know it probably sounds weird to describe an energy “supply” let alone a “pressurized” one, but that’s how it is.
I start some random visualization, doesn’t matter what it is, just something visual. I let it run and don’t try to control it, usually it morphs and does all sorts of weird things but that’s what I want.
I try to run my energy as hard as it will go, usually “colouring” it with the emotion or feeling of what I’m trying to target. Then I wait.
Usually around this time I’ll start popping in and out of what I like to call the “radio state.” A state where I will often hear a wide variety of things, usually random people talking amongst themselves. These voices are very distinctly physical, and tangibly impact me from the outside very much like natural sounds impact the ear before you hear them. Although difficult, sometimes I’ve managed to talk to people in this state and one time I was able to tune it well enough that I could hear my own echo coming back at me through the radio state. I very seriously doubt what is encountered in the radio state is imagination or generated from my own mind due to the various tests I’ve done.
Eventually, if the energy flow is high and stable enough, if the emotional injection into the energy is constat enough, and if overall mental focus is maintained, the visualization may suddenly “pop” into some very solid, stable “window” that is distinctly more crisp and vivid than what is possible with imagination alone. Give it some time to fully stabilize, I always mess up on this part. If you try plunging through before it’s stabilized you will hit a wall. Like, you will accelerate towards the window, and hit something. That’s what happens to me. Yes, just like a bird. I have no clue why this happens but it’s happened to me many times now and has ruined those attempts.
At this point you’re probably starting to get sucked into the window involuntarily and it’s starting to become perceptually more your reality than wherever your are physically. So its imperative that you make sure you’re going to end up somewhere you actually want to be. Because there’s a chance that you ain’t coming back. I don’t know how much of a chance, but a chance nonetheless. If possible, shift the window somewhere else.
Once you’ve got your location set or are just going to wing it and go wherever the window is open to and make the most of it like an episode of Sliders, you can let yourself get pulled in. Warning, this will probably hurt more than a little bit. Feels like some part of me is getting peeled off every time and it kinda sucks. But I deal with it. And ummm, that’s it. You may or may not be able to consciously return to your body. If you can, congratulations, you’ve retained your tether which also means you’re not in as deep as you could be. If you don’t feel any connection to tug on to get yourself back to your body then let’s hope you didn’t just pop into a hive of giant bees or something because leaving is no longer up to you and death and injury is almost certainly real.
I call the latter state “Full Transition” and it’s simultaneously the best and worst thing ever depending on the context. Luckily through testing I’ve found that bleeding off enough energy has a chance of kicking you down to your body or at least reconnecting your tether. So if you know how to do that then you might be okay. But it’s not a guarantee that it will work. This is especially true if another entity decides they’re going to do what I call “locking down” your projection, or OBE in this case. Which is where they will use their energy to tether you and prevent you from running away. If this happens, you’re probably fucked. Unless you can kill them or otherwise disrupt their lockdown and then successfully escape before they can reinstate it congratulations you might be worse than dead. This is a large part of why I don’t like OBE’s or projection anymore and why I really, really don’t recommend others do them unless they are willing and able to deal with the possible consequences.
These consequences can’t be solved by imagining yellow light or thinking about love or burning some sage or putting a salt ring around yourself or any of that stuff. More than likely if you’ve been locked down you are dealing with someone that is psychic, has some degree of magic, and some experience fighting, so unless you’ve got something that can counter that you probably have no chance of winning.
You can try calling for help psychically but if an entity is half decently smart they will jam that as part of the lockdown so don’t depend on it. I especially don’t recommend that someone with religious leanings attempt to OBE because you are pretty much veal. There’s a chance people will try to convince you that they’re gods or angels and they’ll try to lead you on about how you’re the chosen one or whatever. They will tell you everything you want to hear, everything that confirms your beliefs, while using their magic in ways subtle and overt to “prove” it. Feeling “love and goodness” from these people, for example, might as well be them shooting you with a tranquilliser to make you more "agreeable." Then use you for their own benefit or just for fun. This is not guaranteed of course but it’s enough of a risk that I’m going to mention it.
Despite all the possible negatives there’s also a lot of possible positives. Although now that I think of it, I’m not sure what value those positives have to someone who’s trying to live a relatively normal life. I mean sure you can meet people, learn new perspectives and all that. And to be honest for most people the chances of running into anything dangeous is probably slim to none.
But I guess from my perspective as someone who has no interest in a normal life and wants to make magic real here, bridge the two worlds and all that stuff. Who sees themselves as not even supposed to be here. Who's just going to die either way and who's possibilities down here are so limited, mundane and boring as to be worthless even just to pass the time. The value is that I might be able to return to the people I care about. I don’t think other people really have the same goal. My experience up there has been going to various tournaments either to watch or participate, hanging out with friends, learning about a few other cultures, customs and language quirks, helping a few people and seeing some interesting sights. I don’t really know what others might get out of it beyond a sort of novelty of “I left my body and saw cool things” but I’ll leave that up for you to decide.
The main difference between OBE and Projection is only the depth. At least as far as I can tell. If it’s less than a Full Transition, especially if you are able to retain awareness and control of your physical body, then you’re projecting. There are pros and cons to both. Projections are far less vivid and clear and if they are too weak they have a high chance of including imagined content. However projections are much safer since less of your energy is committed to it. Full Transitions are indistinguishable from physical reality in terms of vividness possibly because where you are going is a physical reality just like this one. You don’t need to go to the “spirit world” however, you can project to the physical world as a ghost. If you condense your energy enough that it’s able to interact with physical matter you can become a poltergeist, even a full apparition if your energy is dense enough to block light. Then I suppose if you wanted to you could go haunt something or someone. I usually use it to test out magic which I find much, much easier to perform as a poltergeist than in my physical body. All the research I did in 2017 confirmed for me that the physical body has too much resistance to allow energy to flow at a high enough rate at a high enough density to perform the same things I’ve done as a poltergeist. So 2018 is dedicated to finding a workaround. Hopefully sooner rather than later. In any case I hope this helped someone or was at least interesting to read.
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