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It is certainly fascinating how everything involving this is continuing to play out. People have been frantically going around like ants, worrying whether or not Parnia has suddenly become a materialist or something, and then he comes out with this and seens to confirm he's mostly of his old opinions. It'll be interesting when the actual paper finally comes out.

I think you're right in that some do. In effect treating Sam Parnia as a kind of weather forecast showing which way the wind is blowing. Or like checking whether or not the groundhog can see its own shadow.  But personally I think it's just as important to look at the evidence, including that from multiple sources and perspectives.

Dr Parnia, at least in his official capacity stays on a fairly narrowly-defined track and doesn't discuss much evidence from outside his field. In this recent video he talks about the life-review, and that is something which is widely-observed, but I don't think there have been many such cases within the data captured by the AWARE studies. Of course we do have to wait and see. But if we want to find out about that particular topic it makes a lot of sense to look at other studies too.

I've made a few comments in the (comment) section of the video, mainly in response to someone who styles themselves "Aussie naturalist". Nothing wrong with that of course, but he/she seems to think that Parnia is not qualified to study the brain (mind) as he isn't a neuroscientist. Hence what Parnia says is worthless and we shouldn't pay any attention (basically)

This is actually complete nonsense and it's nonsense we've heard before from materialists. Once you make the grade in medicine (you obtain your MD) you can specialise in anything you want to. Parnia actually did spend some time in neuroscience but obviously decided to change course. The term Neuroscience, a relatively new discipline in medicine (beginning properly in the 1960's) now seems to have great reverence in the medical field, as if it's somehow superior to other disciplines such as cardiology or obstetrics, whatever and yet it's not so. 

A lot of it is just hubris because although great strides have been made, they still haven't got a clue how a brain (a three pound lump of protoplasm) can generate thoughts, our consciousness, from nerve cells that produce proteins etc. So, although Parnia has his MD and impressively in addition, a PHD in cell biology, and is a real live working physician who brings people back from the dead every day and who has studied the phenomenon of near death experiences for twenty five years (and is therefore perfectly qualified for such an endeaver), according to Aussie naturalist, he is a charlatan. Yes, naturally.

It is certainly fascinating how everything involving this is continuing to play out. People have been frantically going around like ants, worrying whether or not Parnia has suddenly become a materialist or something, and then he comes out with this and seens to confirm he's mostly of his old opinions. It'll be interesting when the actual paper finally comes out.

The materialists have lost the argument but they don't have to admit it yet. The sample was far too small to capture the conclusive evidence.

This is just a trailer - latest blockbuster movie from ... Parnia Labs.

From the Parnia Lab, something very exciting coming soon... ??

Trailer for our first documentary film, "Rethinking Death: Exploring What Happens When We Die"

Rethinking Death: Exploring What Happens When We Die

[Laird]

Just a quick check, Typoz: although I'm very enthusiastic about the trailer, and publicising it, when I click on it it leads me to a YouTube page that indicates "Unlisted" below the title. It's totally cool if you know that the publisher is happy for it to be spread widely even though it's unlisted, but otherwise, maybe we should be cautious in publicising it just yet?

Just a quick check, Typoz: although I'm very enthusiastic about the trailer, and publicising it, when I click on it it leads me to a YouTube page that indicates "Unlisted" below the title. It's totally cool if you know that the publisher is happy for it to be spread widely even though it's unlisted, but otherwise, maybe we should be cautious in publicising it just yet?

Fixed - updated youtube link.

[Laird]

Fixed - updated youtube link.

Excellent!

I've not yet seen the movie "Rethinking Death" mentioned above.

This seems to be the panel discussion after the first public showing.

2 Jun 2023
Thank you for all who attended the premiere of our film "Rethinking Death: Exploring What Happens When We Die" and following panel discussion.

Moderated by Dr. Sam Parnia, the panel discussion brought together experts at the forefront of this cutting-edge research to explore how science is shifting the paradigm of our understanding of death, what this means for future medical techniques and therapies, and the implications this has on society as a whole.

A special thank you to our panelists:

• Dr. Sam Parnia, Director of Critical Care and Resuscitation Research at NYU Langone Health
• Dr. Robert Montgomery, Director of the NYU Langone Transplant Institute
• Dr. Tom Aufdherheide, Director of the Resuscitation Research Center at the Medical College of Wisconsin
• Dr. Lindsey Gurin, Assistant professor of neurology and psychiatry at NYU Grossman School of Medicine
• Dr. David Andrijevic, Associate Research Scientist in Neuroscience at Yale School of Medicine

The sound quality is variable, sometimes poor which is unfortunate.

Panel Discussion | Restoring Life: The Art and Science of Resuscitation and Transplantation

[Ninshub]

Here's the documentary.

Here's the documentary.
Rethinking Death: Exploring What Happens When We Die

Thanks - technically it seems a bit of a half-hearted effort; rather than publish the film, this seems like a bootleg copy captured from a zoom call.

Anyway, it's ok. Not much that's new except I think Parnia sounds a bit confused at times, he seems to use the word 'brain' when 'consciousness' would appear more appropriate. I'm really not sure where he's going, though much of what he says is consistent with some previous statements from Parnia.

Perhaps the problem is in trying to discuss (at least) two separate topics in an intermingled style. That is, much of the video is about either medical or to some extent legal issues over patient care and legal definition of death. The other topic is the nature of consciousness and what happens during as well as after death. This part receives less focus here, though Dr. Tom Aufderheide certainly nails it as he highlights something which has no conventional physical explanation.