Human memory may be unreliable after just a few seconds, scientists find

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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023...ions-study

Quote:“Even at the shortest term, our memory might not be fully reliable,” said Dr Marte Otten, the first author of the research from the University of Amsterdam. “Particularly when we have strong expectations about how the world should be, when our memory starts fading a little bit – even after one and a half seconds, two seconds, three seconds – then we start filling in based on our expectations.”

This is just another study proving how unreliable human memory is. That’s also why I don’t pay too much attention to any reports without solid objective evidence.
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I have doubts these types of studies transport well to our real life experience.

Braude has noted this, a lot of "conclusions" in psychology are based on lab work that pretends to remove extraneous variables but could just as easily be argued to create a situation that is isolated from general experience.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell
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(2023-04-05, 10:57 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: I have doubts these types of studies transport well to our real life experience.

Braude has noted this, a lot of "conclusions" in psychology are based on lab work that pretends to remove extraneous variables but could just as easily be argued to create a situation that is isolated from general experience.

Everything can be dismissed with this argument! It’s the Slothful Induction Fallacy!
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(2023-04-06, 08:18 AM)sbu Wrote: Everything can be dismissed with this argument! It’s the Slothful Induction Fallacy!
I would be agreeing with you, if the suspicious about psychology studies did not have some merit based on the number of failed replications and etc.
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(2023-04-06, 12:23 PM)quirkybrainmeat Wrote: I would be agreeing with you, if the suspicious about psychology studies did not have some merit based on the number of failed replications and etc.

psychology and parapsychology you mean?
(2023-04-06, 01:50 PM)sbu Wrote: psychology and parapsychology you mean?
Pretty much. I never thought psi was that compelling in spite of the dishonesty from some detractors like Blackmore and Randi.
Maybe it's the difficult in studying the phenomena?
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(2023-04-06, 02:01 PM)quirkybrainmeat Wrote: Pretty much. I never thought psi was that compelling in spite of the dishonesty from some detractors like Blackmore and Randi.
Maybe it's the difficult in studying the phenomena?

Unfortunately I agree with you. I would love to live in a universe where psi is real but I’m not convinced.
(2023-04-06, 08:18 AM)sbu Wrote: Everything can be dismissed with this argument! It’s the Slothful Induction Fallacy!

Not really, all the applied science would stand.

Beyond that Psychology has a variety of issues, even from a materialist standpoint when it tries to tell us how human brains [work] it has to wait [for] genuine confirmation from neuroscience.

Psychology should just accept it cannot show how things "really are" in the brain or even more importantly the mind, and instead just seek out varied avenues of effective therapy and wellness. I suppose it has some efficacy in marketing and going by the APA's history how best to torture people, so perhaps it also needs to work as a counter to manipulation for the public good.

Anyway it's amusing that you put so much faith in a study that itself "suggests" rather than shows. Even in the article it talks about the need to demonstrate the findings in real world situations...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

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Good post. Thank you.
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