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It's great you asked and were able to receive all this information! Terrific. You raise a lot of good points and I very much agree with what no. 2 says given this is long, very long after grief/bereavement.

White Crow Books recently republished a skeptical book on the evidence for postmortem survival, The Philosophical Possibilities Beyond Death by Brooke Noel Moore. I'd never heard of it and only found it because I check the White Crow website for new stuff periodically. Moore's bottom line is that there is too little evidence for survival relative to the masses of people who have died throughout human history. In essence he asks why we don't have more survival evidence when there should be so many spirits out there trying to communicate. He concludes that this relative lack of evidence favors the view that survival doesn't happen.

It's a pretty strange book - I just looked at a short sample on Amazon and many topics are covered such as head transplants and the philosophy of Daniel Dennett. These to me are abstractions, what seems relevant is the evidence - naturally the sample is too brief to touch upon that. There are as yet no reviews available. I really don't know where the book is heading but from its breadth it is implied that the coverage of evidence itself might be brief - it would take a different book to focus primarily upon that.

But anyway this led me to do my own test so to speak. I figured if experiences with the deceased are common, it shouldn't be hard to find someone in my family who's had one. I've had barely anything in the way of anomalous experiences btw, and I'm not sure the ones that I'm inclined to think were anomalous really were.

Thanks for this - it is good firstly that you found people willing to talk about the topic. The accounts are very useful in confirming that it is not so hard to find first-hand reports.

For myself, I may have had some prior expectation of something, but things I experienced after the passing of each of my parents - a long time ago now - was still a surprise in the forms it took. What I experienced was different in these two cases and surprised me in different ways. Some of the occurrences were in the immediate hours or days after death, but others have been many years later.

I prefer not to share these things publicly, though I may have mentioned some of the things here and there in the past.

The book is originally from 1981?

I think this would need quite the update to keep up with, say, everything the Esalen Group has published about evidence and the rise of consideration about the Hard Problem.

The book is originally from 1981?

I think this would need quite the update to keep up with, say, everything the Esalen Group has published about evidence and the rise of consideration about the Hard Problem.

Can you tell us more?  I would love to stay at Esalen and have dinner at Nepenthe.  I don't know of a Group or of recent work?

Can you tell us more?  I would love to stay at Esalen and have dinner at Nepenthe.  I don't know of a Group or of recent work?

I was just thinking of the role members of the Esalen group played in collection Survival & Psi evidence as published & discussed in Irreducible Mind and Beyond Physicalism.

More specifically re: Survival I'd think of Edward Kelly among others who've collected evidence of NDEs and the like.