Banned from Skeptiko until 15 Feb

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(2019-12-27, 01:43 PM)tim Wrote: Advice is okay but by and large everybody makes up their own mind and so they should. But I think it's quite amazing (and laughable actually) that you, (a former administrator and someone who did so much for that forum) has been banned (even temporally).
Specifically as this applies to Lone Shaman, he knows enough to think he is smart but not enough to know he is wrong. It applies to David Bailey too.
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(2019-12-27, 01:51 PM)Brian Wrote: I'm surprised you continued there Laird.

Well, I've never really thought that the community should have been split in the first place, even though I've helped out and supported that split of the community which consists in this forum - simply because the fork (inevitably?) did happen and I could (support it). I see the PQ/Skeptiko community as a whole which unfortunately has been divided, and so I don't see any reason to avoid posting on the "other" side of the divide(d whole).

(2019-12-27, 01:51 PM)Brian Wrote: I'm one of the few who has never been banned but I haven't been back.

Am curious as to why you chose not to go back even though not banned.
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(2019-12-27, 03:18 PM)Steve001 Wrote: Specifically as this applies to Lone Shaman, he knows enough to think he is smart but not enough to know he is wrong. It applies to David Bailey too.

I don't quite get what you mean, Steve.  Are you actually (subtly) applying this to me ? That I believe I know enough to think I'm smart ? But not enough to know I'm wrong ? 

I can't tell a pig from a dog in a forest at three hundred meters....and therefore I can't tell a veridical out of body experience from a parietal lobe stimulated, subconsciously confabulated delusion, with added on additional lucky guesses ? Or have I got the wrong end of the fishing pole, again ?
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(2019-12-27, 03:32 PM)Max_B Wrote: to create an adult forum, without the biased moderation, parental/child behavior

Yes, that's definitely a big aim of this forum. David's decision in this case is definitely a matter of biased moderation and "big daddy" dynamics - of the sort that we here on PQ (as both a community and as individual moderators) very much try to avoid; as you've noted, by trying to treat individual members as adults to be included and listened to rather than as unruly children to be brought to heel and disciplined.

But nevertheless, significant conversations continue to happen on Skeptiko, and sometimes I feel compelled to get involved.

(2019-12-27, 03:32 PM)Max_B Wrote: the lack of interest Alex showed towards SF posting members, and the content they created

Yes, that's an interesting point. I think that for Alex, Skeptiko is "his journey", and at this point he prefers that the community serves his journey rather than the other way around (hence the focus on the podcasts forum). That's fine - he set the whole thing up, and he gets to choose how it's run. But your point is well-taken: here, there is no benevolent (or otherwise!) dictator to be served: we very much aim to serve one another as a community.
(2019-12-27, 02:31 PM)Mediochre Wrote: The only thing I should go back there for is to delete the remains of my old posts.

I hope that if you do that, you'll transplant them over here.
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(2019-12-27, 03:44 PM)Laird Wrote: I hope that if you do that, you'll transplant them over here.


That was the plan, maybe after editing some a bit to make them less angry
"The cure for bad information is more information."
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(2019-12-27, 04:02 PM)Max_B Wrote: In future, you might consider summarising the particular SF post you feel the compunction about, and posting this summary on psiencequest.net instead of SF, then you can reply to your summary on here (rather than on SF).

That way you transfer interesting subject matter (to you) from SF onto this forum. And you also get an unbiased space where you can relieve your urge to respond.  LOL

I'm amenable to that approach, except that often (at least in my case) the point of replying (including on SF) is to challenge the poster in question - and you can't really challenge somebody off-site, where they might not even be aware that you've made the challenge.
(2019-12-27, 03:33 PM)Laird Wrote: Am curious as to why you chose not to go back even though not banned.
Reason one - Alex
Reason two - It became all about Alex and his aggressive trolling rhetoric podcasts and therefore became tedious and pointless.
Reason three - too many bannings of people I respect.
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