Animal consciousness survival

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I don't feel up to sharing a picture of myself in public but I've got a very recent picture of my cats. In April I got a new female kitten to accompany the older male one (the blue cat). She's helped the grieving over the one I lost in December after close to 18 years.

She sometimes does things remarkably like the deceased one, like lie down in the very same sun spot on the floor that gets illuminated in the morning by the bed when I draw up the curtain. (Edit: She also chews on the plastic ends of a metal stand for a guitar, same as the departed. The older male cat has never done these things.) Do pets reincarnate?

Pets can certainly reincarnate, returning to their beloved, if the bond of love was strong enough. I recall hearing of a few stories like this.

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That's interesting. Not that I necessarily think that's what happened to me (I don't know and wouldn't assume that). But I don't remember coming across such stories.

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When my older one died, in the days that followed my other one, the blue cat in the picture, became sick with pancreatitis, for the first time, which was something that ailed the older one all her life. On top of causing me additional worry and grief (and many $) - luckily he's better now - I wondered if it was a reaction to the other one's absence. I remember Doug thinking well it might be and maybe some sort of psychic bond.

When my older one died, in the days that followed my other one, the blue cat in the picture, became sick with pancreatitis, for the first time, which was something that ailed the older one all her life. On top of causing me additional worry and grief (and many $) - luckily he's better now - I wondered if it was a reaction to the other one's absence. I remember Doug thinking well it might be and maybe some sort of psychic bond.

One of my most (personal) evidential experiences involved a pet I’d recently lost.

One of my most (personal) evidential experiences involved a pet I’d recently lost.

Could you tell us? I can't imagine losing my 4-year old Irish setter, but I can't avoid thinking of the inevitable....

I don't think there's much doubt that just before people make their exit, they do see their beloved (deceased) pets again and they seem absolutely real and very much alive. I've read quite a few reliable accounts of that kind.

Not only that, one of my ex girlfriends, a nurse who used to work with the dying, was with them through the night  and she would note that they sometimes used to stroke fresh air like they were stroking an invisible cat or dog. It's just a fact, even though sceptics will no doubt find it highly amusing.

She wasn't a religious type of person at all, not in the slightest, she didn't like talking about that kind of stuff but when I pressed her to give me more information (because I was interested) she said something like this (not verbatim but a fair summary)

"Okay, yes patients do see their dead relatives just before they die...one old lady (for instance) said to me (with reference to the fact that she could obviously see a deceased member of her family in the room) …"I'm not going with him, go and get such and such a body (another relative)

This kind of thing is well attested and known by those that work with the dying. Jennifer (not her real name) I can assure you was absolutely not simply feeding me something I wanted to hear. She was highly professional and quite hardened about this aspect of her job.

But how can an experience such as 'Jennifer' described above, be a hallucination ? A (dying) woman in clear lucid consciousness, requesting that an apparition of a dead relative (that has come to take her into death/oblivion) goes and get's another dead relative that is more acceptable to her, before she will actually die/be obliterated. It just doesn't make any sense.

Could you tell us? I can't imagine losing my 4-year old Irish setter, but I can't avoid thinking of the inevitable....

Nice photo, Enrique !

Could you tell us? I can't imagine losing my 4-year old Irish setter, but I can't avoid thinking of the inevitable....

Sure Enrique.

We lost Max in the November prior to this experience, and Georgia (his sister) about ten days before it happened. We had them from pups. Max had lymphoma and was 7, Georgia had just turned 8 and died of the same thing. 

I am not sure how much sense it will make to you but it had a profound impact on me. I had never experienced anything like it before and I haven't since. This are my notes written a short while after the event.

"15:53 Saturday16/08/2014 Lying on sofa. Mainly asleep more dozing but could hear snatches of TV.  

Sudden Strong impression of face being licked intensely. Kept my eyes closed, had sensation of touching head and ears of a dog, I could 'see' dog but knew my eyes were closed. It was a Dobermann. Odd state - part of me seemingly experiencing the phenomenon and another part, equally me, observing it.

Got impression it was more Max than Georgia but a lot younger. Licking like Max did. Standing between footstool and sofa pushing head to me, head slightly inclined which Max used to do to get a good lick . 

The other me (being licked) was calling <my partner> (who wasn't in the room) but I didn't want to open my eyes because I knew he would go. I could see, though I knew my eyes were closed. It was not seeing in the usual sense in that it lacked the crystal clear quality vision I have when I am awake, but nevertheless it was easily good enough to see the dog and what he was going.  Didn't feel like I was fully awake, but intense feeling of real presence and of my face actually being licked - even down to the texture of the dog’s tongue. The tongue was soft but no sensation of wetness or slobber . I could feel his his head, almost sure it was Max. Licking feeling was intense.felt like he was reaching to me between footstool and sofa but not completely obstructed by it. I could actually see part of the footstool through the dog though my eyes were closed. "

I got the impression the dog had entered from the far door in the room and had run to me, almost as though someone had let him into the room. 

When I say "I thought it was Max" it was because the dogs were very similar, from the same litter so I couldn't be absolutely certain by sight, but the behaviour was definitely more "Max-like"than Georgia. There was no doubt in my mind it was one of the dogs we had lost. The light in the room appeared yellowish (not like when I woke) and not like I have seen anywhere when awake but it was easily bright enough to see by,

Finally I have a recollection that he had a tail - which was odd as he had been docked by the breeder before we got him.

It is hard to convey the 'realness' of the experience. There were two "me"s. One in contact with the dog and the other, perhaps two or three inches behind, it watching but also experiencing the feelings. 

Almost as soon as I realised what was happening and my attention focused, the scene disappeared. 

Odd no?

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Thanks for sharing that Obi. Just to make sure, this experienced happened 10 days after you lost the second dog, Georgia?